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Deborah

Deborah Report 27 Jun 2009 12:47

Albert was born in 1894 in Thetford suffolk/norfolk
Are there records of his parents?
or any census results?

I can't seem to find anything
Thankyou
Deborah

Thankyou

Janice

Janice Report 27 Jun 2009 12:59

Were there any siblings that you know of? You might be able to get the parents via them.

Deborah

Deborah Report 27 Jun 2009 13:13

Thanks for replying so quickly
Iam in Australia so I'm not sure what time it is for you guys.

Unfortunately that is not my Albert
he did live and marry in 1915 I have the names of his wife and children, but not the other way.

I don't know of any siblings or his parents. I thought if I could find census results it may be a clue.

It seems I've hit that well known brick wall

Thanks again
Deborah

Janice

Janice Report 27 Jun 2009 13:19

Is it the Albert Austin - Eleanor fenton marriage registered in Ipswich?

have you got the marriage cert? Albert's father will be named on that.

Deborah

Deborah Report 27 Jun 2009 13:24

Hi Janice
Thats the one, I think you're right I'll have to get the certificate, as this is really frustrating.

Thanks again
Deborah

Janice

Janice Report 27 Jun 2009 13:26

Hi deborah,
How do you know when/where he was born?

Deborah

Deborah Report 28 Jun 2009 10:40

Sorry for the late reply

I can't remember exactly how I found out but he matched other trees on GR, but they knew nothing about him they were following the "Fenton" line. Albert and Eleanor's daughter was Lilian Austin who was my grandmother I found them on Bdm sites that tied her into her being their daughter. She was born in Bradford so I know they moved at some point. There were two other siblings(of Lilian's) that I have been unable to trace. As there are no living relatives to find out more I rely on kind people like yourself to piece together everything.

Thankyou
Deborah

Janice

Janice Report 28 Jun 2009 13:21

Hi Deborah,

Were the siblings born in Bradford? Have found these 2:

Albert V Austin registered Q1 1924 in Bradford

Joyce Austin registered Q3 1926

Janice

Added later:

Have found a marriage which could be Joyce's: 1946 in Bradford to a Harold E Haigh. 2 children, 1947 and 1952, one of whom is on this site. Another one with right surname and MMN but born 1975 so not sure as gap is large and mother would be 49.
If you haven't already got this, e-mail me and I'll send you the details.
Janice
PS am in the UK so we're working opposite shifts here!

Janice

Janice Report 28 Jun 2009 14:53

OND 1947

Marriage of Albert V Austin to Kathleen Burke in Bradford. Could be the other sibling.

2 children with right names and place born in 1953 and 1955.

Janice

Janice Report 28 Jun 2009 19:03

Hi deborah,

Been mulling this over and think you need to scrap the idea of him being born in 1894 in Thetford unless you have any primary evidence for it.
Eleanor Louise was born 1894, registered Ipswich, but after her marriage they moved to Bradford? Why?
There are a couple of Albert Austin births registered in Bradford around the right time, and I think one possible scenario is that they moved there because his family were there. Obviously this is only a guess, but I think you will need Albert and Eleanor's marriage cert to move this one forward.
What do you think?
Janice

PS There is an Albert Austin aged 16 listed on the 1911 in an institution in Suffolk. Have you checked him out?

Deborah

Deborah Report 29 Jun 2009 06:13

Hi Janice

First of all a public reply to thank you for helping me with my search. Secondly I would love to have some names of living relatives so I will pm you.

jansmith

jansmith Report 29 Jun 2009 07:55

found him in army records joined 1908 so will be in military in 1911 census
details marriage to Fenton Ipswich 13th october 1915
Lilian born 3rd Jan 1919
Father Henry think address is 30 Melworth st Bradford (crossed out as wifes details have been put in as n of k)
brother Harry address not known

discharged to an address in Bradford

jansmith

jansmith Report 29 Jun 2009 08:08

1891 possibleName: Albert Austin
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Horton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Town: Bradford
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England



Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Austin 36
Mary Austin 37
Henry Austin 11 (could be the Harry as this does happen )
Florence Austin 8
Arthur Austin 6
Albert Austin 2


jansmith

jansmith Report 29 Jun 2009 08:37

has a duplicate set of army pension records
details on other set
(these may be when he joined up)
Father Henry mother dead (address ? Harington St Bradford)

brothers Henry and Arthur

jansmith

jansmith Report 29 Jun 2009 08:40

1911 then
MILITARY AUSTIN ALBERT 1891 age 20 5/12 Overseas Military

Janice

Janice Report 29 Jun 2009 09:31

Hi Jansmith,

I saw the military entry on the 1911 and wondered about it - never thought to look in army records DOH!!
Glad you've confirmed the Bradford connection which I had begun to suspect. Might make progress now :-)

Janice

Janice

Janice Report 29 Jun 2009 09:39

Here they are in 1881:

Henry Austin
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Horton In Bradford
Street Address: 53 Marion Street
Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Horton
Henry Austin 26
Mary Austin 27
Henry Austin 1

Janice

Janice Report 29 Jun 2009 09:43

The 1881 says Henry and Mary were born in Burton on Trent so I guess this is the right marriage:

Marriages Dec 1877
Austin Henry Burton upon Trent 6b 494
BECK Mary Burton 6b 494

This death ties in with the census:

Deaths Mar 1898
Austin Mary age 43, Bradford, Y. 9b 79


Deborah

Deborah Report 29 Jun 2009 10:03

Another BIG thankyou to Jan and Janice.

pm you both

Deborah

Deborah Report 8 Jul 2009 11:27

Just to let you know that thanks to both of your help I was able to connect with matches on my tree and found relatives I didn't know I had.

Thankyou

Deborah