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51year59

51year59 Report 11 Jun 2009 23:09

Trying to find Phoebe Baker,s mothers maiden name? Phoebe was born ar Denaby Main around 1892. Her father was John Baker and her mother was Mary Baker.

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Keighly, Gargreave, Ripon, North Yorkshire, west Yorkshire

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 11 Jun 2009 23:10

Have you found the family in 1901?

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GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 11 Jun 2009 23:12

1901

Name: Phoebe A Baker
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Denaby Main, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Walsall
Ecclesiastical parish: Bloxwich All Saints
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Bloxwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 144

John Baker 40 Portobello, Staffordshire
Mary Baker 39 Pendlebury, Lancashire
Mary J Baker 12 Bloxwich, Staffordshire
Phoebe A Baker 9
William Baker 5
Frances A Baker 3
John J Baker 7 months


To give some idea of when the marriage might have taken place




Have you found them in 1891?

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FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 Jun 2009 23:23

Choice of two births for phoebe

Births Mar 1892 (>99%)
Baker Phoebe Alice Doncaster 9c 673
Births Jun 1892 (>99%)
Baker Phoebe Ann Doncaster 9c 769

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51year59

51year59 Report 11 Jun 2009 23:23

No this is my problem, can not even find Mary J Baker.

Researching:
Keighly, Gargreave, Ripon, North Yorkshire, west Yorkshire

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 11 Jun 2009 23:25

Also struggling with 1891

Maureen

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FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 Jun 2009 23:27

Although on 1901 is says that john junior is born denaby main,I think this is him.

Births Dec 1900 (>99%)
Baker John James Walsall 6b 695

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51year59

51year59 Report 11 Jun 2009 23:33

Yes I got the same but cannot trace back to earlier census to find Mary, Phoebe or Frances and have no idea how to find their mothers maiden name?

Researching:
Keighly, Gargreave, Ripon, North Yorkshire, west Yorkshire

51year59

51year59 Report 11 Jun 2009 23:39

I have the marriage cert. for Frances Baker who married Fred Wilson in 1914 which gives the father as John Baker. The address given for Frances on cert. was 76 Ford's Row, Whitwood mere. Traced this back to being John Baker born Portabelo, Staff. But cannot trace in 1891 census.

Researching:
Keighly, Gargreave, Ripon, North Yorkshire, west Yorkshire

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 Jun 2009 23:54

Have you found them on 1911 to find out how long they have been married.??

To find out the maiden name of their mother you need to buy one of their birth certs.

What is frances ,second name on the marriage cert.?

And I cant find them in 1891 either.

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51year59

51year59 Report 11 Jun 2009 23:57

Her second name is Ann

Researching:
Keighly, Gargreave, Ripon, North Yorkshire, west Yorkshire

51year59

51year59 Report 11 Jun 2009 23:58

Can not find a birth cert. for Fances have tryed

Researching:
Keighly, Gargreave, Ripon, North Yorkshire, west Yorkshire

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 12 Jun 2009 00:04

Births Mar 1898 (>99%)
Baker Frances Ann Rotherham 9c 779

The district Rotherham spans the boundaries of the counties of Derbyshire, South Yorkshire and West Riding of Yorkshire


But the birth of john in walsall reg is also a very likely one
And of course there is the choice of 2 phoebes.

A process of elimination by sending for the one you think most likey of them using mother and fathers name as checking ref.

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51year59

51year59 Report 12 Jun 2009 00:06

Thank you will try this. Its so frustrating I know all about Frances after her marriage in 1914 but nothing before it.

Researching:
Keighly, Gargreave, Ripon, North Yorkshire, west Yorkshire

51year59

51year59 Report 12 Jun 2009 00:19

will send for birth cert.

Researching:
Keighly, Gargreave, Ripon, North Yorkshire, west Yorkshire

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 12 Jun 2009 00:23

Out of the phoebe births I would go for phoebe alice as Ann is Frances second name.

viv

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51year59

51year59 Report 12 Jun 2009 00:24

will do that, thanks

Researching:
Keighly, Gargreave, Ripon, North Yorkshire, west Yorkshire