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I have located a Hy ( henry or harry !!) McGill in the 1851 Census who is listed as the nephew of John mcGill ( 1802) born in Middlesex area London in approx 1830.
I cannot find any Hy McGill in any other census or his parents, could someone possibly help me in this matter , even if it is just confirmed that he isn`t about. I would love to make the connection between Hy Mcgills dad anfd John Mcgill 1802 born in Scotland.
I do possibly have Johns other sibblings born in Edinburgh Scotland but i cant be 100% until i can find Hy dad.

Thank you ... Mark

For both parties to carry the McGill surname it's safe to assume Hy is the son of one of John McGill's male siblings. (unless it's a comlicated issue and Hy is the base child of one of john's sisters!!)

How many male siblings have you traced for John?

Who are John's parents?....can you please post some data so we can help you more.


Regards

Tracey x

This is your man....

1851 England Census
about Hy McGill
Name: Hy McGill
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: All Souls

John McGill 49
Georgiana McGill 48
John McGill 22
Thos McGill 19
Wm McGill 17
Hy McGill 21
Margaret McGill 10

Hi Tracey here i have listed the possible parents of john Mcgill 1802 and the sibblings.

Thomas McGill and Margaret McAndrew
married 18/01/1796

mary Mcgill 30/08/1798
Margaret 12/07/1800
John 1802
Thomas 21/04/1804
Katherine 09/06/1809
marion 30/03/1811
William 27/05/1815
Alexander 25/04/1818

these are from parish records, think it was st cuthberts Midlothian Edinburgh scotland

hope this helps

kind regards Mark

Hi Tracey, yes thats the man !! lol

Now interestingly the image tells a little more than the transcript. Looks like Margaret is Hy's sibling. There is a ditto under Nephew, i think the enumerator is trying to say 'sibling' inferring the Nephew duplicate to be neice??


Tracey x

Possibly John's marriage?

County Middlesex
Place St Martin in the Fields
Church St George Hanover Square Tr
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 01 May 1824
GroomForename John
GroomSurname MCGILL

BrideForename Georgina
BrideSurname MILLARD


Tracey x

Hi Tracey, i understand what your saying but in the 1861 or 1871 or 1881 census, John is on his own with the only sibbling Margaret and she is listed as being his daughter ....

Mark x

WOW !!!
you have a surname for Georgina !!! ur a right sleuth aren`t you.

Cheers Tacey XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Mark

Yes i've just found Margaret's baptism and that of her sister catherine.

Ok, i take it you didn't have a Surname for Georgina lol...

Familysearch have her parents too...


T xx

MARGARET SUSANNAH MC GILL

Birth: 22 JAN 1841
Christening: 21 FEB 1841 All Souls, Saint Marylebone, London, England

Parents:
Father: JOHN MC GILL
Mother: GEORGINA

CATHERINE ELIZABETH MC GILL
Birth: 29 JUL 1837
Christening: 08 OCT 1837 All Souls, Saint Marylebone, London, England

Parents:
Father: JOHN MC GILL Family
Mother: GEORGINA


Tracey x

Looks like Catherine didn't live very long :-(

Deaths Mar 1840
MCGILL Catherine Elizabeth Marylebone 1 135

...and Georgina was quite young too...

Deaths Dec 1856
MCGILL Georgina Marylebone 1a 240



T x

John's birth?

06/02/1802 MCGILL JOHN
Father: THOMAS MCGILL
Mother: MARGARET MCANDREW
Sex: M
Parish: St Cuthbert's
City/County: EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN
GRO Ref: 685/002 0120 0517


T x

Ok, going through the male siblings i think we can discount William, this looks like him with his family still in Scotland.

1851 Scotland Census
about William McGill
Name: William McGill
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name: Elisabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: St Cuthbards, Edinr
Parish Number: 685/2
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
Town: Edinburgh
County: Midlothian
Address: 23 Grange Loan
Occupation: Ground Officer
ED: 1
Page: 8 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 39
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1851_181
Household Members: Name Age
William McGill 37
Elisabeth McGill 35
Robert McGill 12
John McGill 10
Elisabeth McGill 8
Isabella McGill 4
William McGill 1
Infant McGill 2weeks

T xx

Could this be Thomas??

1851 Scotland Census
about Thomas McGill
Name: Thomas McGill
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name: Ellison
Gender: Male
Where born: Edinburgh, Midlothian
Parish Number: 697
Civil Parish: Penicuick
Town: Penicuick
County: Midlothian
Address: Loan
Occupation: Blacksmith
ED: 4
Page: 4 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 15
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1851_190
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas McGill 45
Ellison McGill 25
Alexander McGill 10
William McGill 8
Thomas McGill 7
Jessie McGill 5
Elizabeth McGill 4
Helen McGill 2
Robert McGill 1


T x

Hello Mark,
I dont think this will be of any help to you but my husband is a John McGill and we are in Scotland. He had or has brothers, Edward, Thomas Alexander and William. His parents where Edward and Mary (nee Mitchell.
They were all born in Paisley.
i dont think so but if this is any help feel free to contact.

Janet McGill

Hi tracey, what a star you are with all that information, thank you very much for all your time and effort its really much appreciated, honest to god.

No Luck with Henry or Harry though, never mind, i`ll have to try again on Monday, i`m away for the weekend, so just incase you find any more info i wont be here to give you any more info, dont want you to think i`m being ignorant.

thanks again tracey.xxxxx



Hi Janet, thanks any way janet, bit no sadly no connection....mark

Hi Mark,
been looking for info for you for the last few days and apart from finding Hy as short for Henry. The only Henry we found born around that time was on the 1841 census born c1836

Name: Henry McGill
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: St Pancras
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Somers Town
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew McGill 40
Violette McGill 40
Benjamin McGill 15
John McGill 14
Samuel McGill 13
Elizabeth McGill 11
Daniel McGill 3
Henry McGill 5
James McGill 1

I really wonder whether the census taker got it wrong and Henry was Georgina's nephew. I found a possible in 1841 for a Henry Millard. This one does not appear on the 1851 census that I can find and doesn't seem to have died.......but I,m not too good with English records

Name: Henry Millard
Age: 5 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: St Marylebone
Sub-registration district: Rectory
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Millard 55
Sarah Millard 20
Maria Millard 18
Caroline Millard 7
Samuel Millard 5
Henry Millard 5 Mo