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We have found out that my mother & her 4 siplings ( one older, 3 younger) were not fathered by her mothers husband, as he died 2 years before she was born. She is 85 years old & was always told by her mother that he died in 1931, when in fact he died in 1921 from wounds he received in the first world war.
Mum was born in Norwich & her mothers name was Gertrude Laura Roe, husband Charles William Roe. The children concerned were born in 1920, 23, 26 twins, 30.
All children except the oldest has the middle name of King.
Mum & her siplings were taken to a family of Kings who lived at no 4 Ashby Road in Norwich, they were told they were family friends. One of these had to be the father but how do I find out who. Im I trying to find out the impossible or could you advise me on a possible way that may help.
If you need anymore info I will try to give it.
My cousin has been seaching for the answer in Norwich but seems to have come up against a brick wall,
I hope you can help, many thanks, Janice

Have you got your mother's birth cert or any of her siblings birth certs? If so who is named as the father on them?

Unless the Kings are still family friends then I don't think you are ever going to find out.

You could check the electoral registers for the address in Norwich and see how many males were registered there - but the father of the children may not have lived there - it could have been grandparents that the children were taken to visit.

Kath. x

Hi, Yes I have all there births certs & there is no father entered. Mum always had the small version, so didnt really think anything of it.
The eldest child is Ronald Edward Roe, & the others all have King as their middle name.

Sorry about the delete that was me, pressed the wrong button.

I know what you mean Kathleen, my cousin has checked the electoral registers but even so it hasnt got her anywhere.

I can see the children born in 1920, 23, 26 twins. What was the name of the child born in 1930?

The last child is called Beryl
many thanks

Difficult one this! The only thing that I can suggest is that it might be worth getting a copy of Gertrude Laura's death certificate as the Informant might be a 'King'.

I have that too, mums eldest brother, who really was Charles son was the informant. My cousin is mums eldest half brothers daugther.
Your right, it is a difficult one,
thanks,
Janice

Note that Gertrude & Charles married in 1910 so there's a possibility of more half siblings

Possibles?

Births Dec 1913
Roe Reginald E C Blake Norwich 4b 227
Deaths Mar 1914
Roe Reginald E 0 Norwich 4b 166


Births Sep 1915
Roe Gertrude L Blake Norwich 4b 262

Thats right, we have Ivy Lottie Laura Roe born 1911 died when she was 6.
Also Gertrude Roe born 1915, she died 2006.
William James Blake the eldest half sipling born 1908 died 2006.
We found Reginalds grave & marked it & Charles was burried with Ivy, which we marked too. Both these graves had been unmarked.

My nan really did have a rough time.
She lost her baby son in 1911, her mother died in 1915, her 6 year old daughter in 1917, her father gased himself in her house in April 1921 and her husband Charles was shot in the spine & paralized in 1918, then died in 1921 after being in hospital for the last 3 years.
Then she told her children that their father was her husband & died in 1931. Mum doesnt find it too hard to believe as she never remembered a father living with them but she does find the lies her mother told her difficult to believe. She even took mum to Charles grave & told her he was her father.

How sad .....!

This might be something or it could be nothing! It is from the 1901 census and the address is 4 Ashby Street not Ashby Road... a bit of a coincidence that a Family called 'King' are living there!

Name: Edward King
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward C
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Norwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Lakenham All Saints and Lakenham St John the Baptist and and Trowse St Andrew
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: West Wymer
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 72
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward C King 53 occ Engine Fitter
Mary Ann King 47
Edward King 28 Lithographic printer
Harry King 21 Upholsterer
John King 17 Boiler Makers Apprentice
George King 14 Whitesmith
Alfred King 14
Edith King 11
Richard King 9
Ethel King 5

All the family born in Norwich. None of the children are married

And this is the same family in the 1911 census

HOUSEHOLD KING EDWARD CAN M 1849 62 Norwich Norfolk
HOUSEHOLD KING ETHEL F 1896 15 Norwich Norfolk
HOUSEHOLD KING GEORGE CLEMENT M 1874 37 Norwich Norfolk
HOUSEHOLD KING KENNETH BARHAM M 1904 7 Norwich Norfolk
HOUSEHOLD KING MARY ANN F 1854 57 Norwich Norfolk
HOUSEHOLD KING RICHARD M 1892 19 Norwich Norfolk
HOUSEHOLD KING SARAH BEATRICE F 1877 34 Norwich Norfolk

Last names KING
Last names Algorithm Exact
County Norfolk
District Norwich
Residence ASHBY STREET

Thank you Londonbelle, sorry Ive been away, we seem to have a flood.

Hope the flood is not too bad....
I have to go now but will try and pick this up again tomorrow

I dont think its too bad.....
Thanks Londonbelle, Im most grateful

HI,
I have found Edward 1878 living at 84 North Walsham Road Norwich with his wife Ethel Elizabeth & his sons George Henry, Edward and William. He appears to have had 6 children with only 3 living.

Thank you for the 1911 census, Edwards middle name is Carr, which fits as they probably read it wrong.
It was Ashby Street, its me, cant think why I put Road, just to confuse things I expect, sorry about that.

I cant seem to find anything at all for the other children.
Henry (Harry), John, George, Alfred or Edith.
They seem to have just vanished.

Hi Janice

I'm back again .....

Do you know when your mother and siblings were taken to live with the King family?

When did Gertrude Laura die?