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28 Feb 2026 21:59 |
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If you want help with research……just ask
Caroline did, and was given help - as you will be.
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1 Mar 2026 12:41 |
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1939 Register 60 Anglesea Road, Woolwich, Greenwich, Woolwich, London, England Emily Spellward 22 Jan 1888 Female Domestic Duties Widowed 14 1 Ethel Allen(Spellward) 12 Dec 1914 Female Out Of Work - Anywork House? Single 14 2 James (William) Spellward 28 Jan 1925 Male Factory Hand - Bottle Washer ? Single 14 3 Richard F Spellward 29 May 1928 Male At School Single 14 4 ~??? Parrett (Partley,Woodley) 09 May 1919 Unknown Factory Hand - Soldering At ? Single 14 5 Norah (Kathleen) Duddy (Spellward) 06 Jun 1921 Female Cord Winder At S? Single 14 6 John Spellward 28 Jun 1938 Male Under School Age Single 14 7
1921 Census Of England & Wales 60, Anglesea Road, Plumstead, London & Kent, England
Edward Spellward Head Male 1868 52 Plumstead, Kent, England Excavator Employer Emily Spellward Wife Female 1888 33 Plumstead, Kent, England - - George Spellward Step-son Male 1910 11 Leytonstone, Essex, England - - Ethel Spellward Daughter Female 1915 6 Plumstead, Kent, England - - Ada Spellward Daughter Female 1917 4 Plumstead, Kent, England - - Amy Spellward Daughter Female 1919 2 Plumstead, Kent, England - - Baby Spellward Daughter Female 1921 - Plumstead, Kent, England - -
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1 Mar 2026 13:05 |
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Your tree on Ancestry shows 1895 as Leslie George Allen's birth year.........there is no record in England/Wales (or Scotland) to verify that
You indicate that these were his parents
Marriages Jun 1894 (>99%) Allen George Wallace London C. 1c 43 Tufnell Florence London C. 1c 43
Therefore, this must be the correct birth
ALLEN, LESLIE GEORGE TUFNELL GRO Reference: 1896 J Quarter in ST SAVIOUR SOUTHWARK LONDON Volume 01D Page 84
Vaccination record
First name(s) Leslie George Parish St Saviours Union Last name Allen County Surrey Birth date 24 Mar 1896****************** Number of case 389 Birth place - Country England Year Of Birth 1896 Archive Southwark Archives Year 1896 Document type Vaccination Registers Event date 27 Apr 1896 Dates covered 1895-1900 Date - Date range 1895-1900 Father first name George Wallace Record set Southwark Vaccination Registers Father last name Allen Category Institutions & organisations Place St Saviours Union Subcategory Hospitals & Institutions Sub district Trinity, Newington Sub-District
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 15, Trinity Square, Newington, St Saviour Southwark, London & Surrey, England George W Allen Head Married Male 29 1872 Police officer Erith, Kent, England Florence Allen Wife Married Female 29 1872 - City of London, Middlesex, England Leslie Geo Allen Son Single Male 5 1896 - Southwark, Surrey, England Sidney G Tufnell Boarder Single Male 23 1878 Traveller in silk & c City of London, Middlesex, England
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1 Mar 2026 14:20 |
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Name George Wallace Allen Age in 1911 39 Estimated Birth Year abt 1872 Relation to Head Head Gender Male Birth Place Erith, Kent, England Civil parish Lambeth County/Island London Country England Street Address 127 Casewick Road, West Norwood S W Marital Status Married Occupation Police Inspector Registration District Number 25 Sub-registration district Norwood ED, institution, or vessel 26 Piece 2125 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship George Wallace Allen 39 Head Florence Allen 39 Wife Leslie George Allen 15 Son Frank Wallace Allen 6 Son William Daniel Scott 25 Boarder
???? Name Florence Allen Age 40 Estimated Birth Year abt 1872 Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place Lambeth, London, United Kingdom Death Date Mar 1912 Volume 1d Page 480
Marriages Jun 1913 (>99%) Allen George W Hosking Lambeth 1d 599 Hosking Annie A Allen Lambeth 1d 599
1921 Census Of England & Wales 69, Lancaster Road, East Ham, Essex & London, England George Wallace Allen Head Male 1872 49 Erith, Kent, England Police Inspector Corporation Of City Of London, Guildhall Annie Amelia Allen Wife Female 1871 50 Stratford, London, England Home Duties - Frank Wallace Allen Son Male 1904 17 Stockwell, London, England Apprentice Hitchcock Williams & Coy, Wholesale Drapers Maria Annie Mitcham Visitor Female 1868 53 Kensington, London, England Clerk Woolland Brod Ltd, Knighsbridge Drapers
ALLEN, FRANK WALLACE TUFNELL GRO Reference: 1904 S Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 363
Name Frank Wallace Allen Gender Male Record Type Baptism Baptism Date 30 Oct 1904 Baptism Place Saint Barnabas, South Lambeth: Guildford Road, Lambeth, Lambeth, England Father George Wallace Allen Mother Florence Allen Register Type Parish Register Born June 16th 1904 Brother Leslie baptised same day....DoB incorrectly recorded as 24/03/1895
Name Leslie George Allen Birth Date 24 Mar 1896************************ Birth Place Newington, London. Freedom Date 17 Jan 1927 Freedom Place City of London, England Residence Place England Father George Wallace Allen
Name Frank Wallace Allen Gender Male Marriage Age 27 Birth Date abt 1904 Marriage Date 25 Dec 1931 Marriage Place Chingford, St Edmund, Essex, England Father George Wallace Allen Spouse Frances Dorothy Hutchings Source Description Marriage Register; Service of Church: Registers of Marriages; Registers; Chingford, St Edmund (Digital Images Only); Waltham Forest Archives (Digital Images Only);1928-1933
1939 Register 22 Cleves Walk, Redbridge, Ilford M.B., Essex, England Frank W Allen 16 Jun 1904 Male Bus Driver Road Passenger Tra Married 170 1 Francis D Allen 11 Jan 1908 Male Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 170 2 The record for this person is officially closed. The record for this person is officially closed. William H Hutchings 28 Aug 1864 Male Retired Grocery Manag Widowed 170 5 Valerie C Northen (Allen) 27 Feb 1938 Female Under School Age Single 170 4
Deaths Dec 1975 (>99%) ALLEN FRANK WALLACE 16JE1904 WAVENEY 10 283
Marriages Sep 1958 (>99%) ALLEN Valerie C NORTHEN Ilford 5a 1100 NORTHEN Peter J ALLEN Ilford 5a 1100
Two possible children.......births on freebmd
Northen Valerie Claire 1938 1994 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Hillingdon, Middlesex, England
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1 Mar 2026 14:39 |
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Births Jun 1871 (>99%) HOSKING Annie Amelia W. Ham 4a 17
1939 Register Boxmoor Westland Avenue, Hornchurch, Hornchurch U.D., Essex, England George W Allen 29 Dec 1871 Male Chief Inspector Of Police Ret Married 412 1 Annie A Allen 29 Apr 1871 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 412 2
Name George Wallace Allen Death Date 21 Oct 1941 Death Place Sussex, England Probate Date 13 Feb 1942 Probate Registry Llandudno Probate to widow, Annie Amelia
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1 Mar 2026 15:05 |
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Living with sister and brother-in-law
Name Patricia K. Allen Electoral Date 1967 Street Address 222 Thorold Road (I Ward or Division/Constituency Ilford County or Borough Ilford, England
Marriages Dec 1964 (>99%) ALLEN Gloria I HOLDER W.Ham 5a 1315 HALL Gloria I HOLDER W.Ham 5a 1315 HOLDER Ronald D ALLEN W.Ham 5a 1315 HOLDER Ronald D HALL W.Ham 5a 1315
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1 Mar 2026 15:52 |
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Name George Wallace Allen Gender Male Initiation Age 25 Birth Year abt 1872 Initiation Date 25 Jan 1897 First Payment Year on Register 1897 Year range 1887-1909 Profession Police Sergt. Lodge Stuart Lodge*************************Freemasons Lodge Number 1632 Folio Number 202
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1 Mar 2026 15:57 |
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Name Leslie George Allen Death Registration Date 1977 Death Registration Place Victoria, Australia Father George Wallace Allen******************************* Reference Number 582
??? Name Mr Leslie G Allen Gender Male Departure Age 51 Birth Date abt 1896 Departure Date 12 Nov 1947 Departure Port England Ship Name Tongariro Shipping Line New Zealand Shipping Company Limited Destination Port Sydney, Australia Master A E Williams
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1 Mar 2026 16:13 |
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If this is the right Leslie, it could explain his not being on the 1921 census
Name Leslie George Allen Arrival Age 25 Birth Date abt 1896 Port of Departure Calabar, Nigeria Arrival Date 16 Oct 1921 Port of Arrival Liverpool, England Ports of Voyage Lagos; Accra; Cape Coast; Sekondi; Sierra Leone Ship Name Appam Shipping Line British and African Steam Navigation Company Ltd Official Number 135442
Home address looks like 69 Lancaster Road Forest Gate
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His father's address!!!
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1 Mar 2026 16:18 |
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Name Leslie George Allen Military Year 1914-1920 Rank Rifleman Unit 33rd (City of London) Battalion Company WO 329 Regiment or Corps London Regiment Regiment Number 860743 Medal Awarded British War Medal and Victory Medal
Served July-Nov 1918
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2 Mar 2026 13:37 |
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Births Jun 1913 (>99%) Spellward Harriett A Wordley Woolwich 1d 2346 Births Mar 1915 (>99%) Spellward Ethel J Wordley Woolwich 1d 2330 Births Jun 1921 (>99%) Spellward Norah K Wordley Woolwich 1d 2326 Births Mar 1925 (>99%) Spellward James W Wordley Woolwich 1d 1838 Births Jun 1928 (>99%) Spellward Richard F Wordley Woolwich 1d 1649
Illegitimate son of one of the daughters, one assumes (below)
Births Sep 1938 (>99%) Spellward John J Spellward Lewisham 1d 1113
Deaths Dec 1939 (>99%) Spellward John J 1 Woolwich 1d 1386
Not Harriet's..................... Deaths Mar 1915 (>99%) Spellward Harriett A 1 Woolwich 1d 1842
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2 Mar 2026 13:49 |
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Further checking shows that, of his generation, only Richard's birth was legitimate................................
Marriages Dec 1927 (>99%) Spellward Edwin E Wordley Woolwich 1d 2343 Wordley Emily Spellward Woolwich 1d 2343
Name Edwin E Spellward Death Age 60 Birth Date abt 1871 Registration Date 1931 Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District Camberwell Inferred County London Volume 1d Page 630
Name Edwin Ernest Spellward Register Type Burial Death Date 14 Sep 1931 Burial Date 19 Sep 1931 Burial Place Greenwich URL https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch?DetsView=Summary&src=ext&fileid=3810315
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2 Mar 2026 14:06 |
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Marriages Dec 1940 (>99%) Duddy Michael W Spellward E.Ham 4a 522 Spellward Norah K Duddy E.Ham 4a 522
Deaths Sep 1970 (>99%) DUDDY Norah Kathleen 6Je1921 Newham 5e 1549
Name Michael Wheatley Duddy Gender Male Birth Date 10 Jan 1909 Baptism Date 23 Jan 1909 Baptism Place Willington Quay, England Father Joannis Duddy Mother Emily Livermore Duddy FHL Film Number 2046588 Reference ID p162 No. (10)
Name Michael Wheatley Duddy Death Age 80 Birth Date 10 Jan 1909 Registration Date Mar 1989 Registration District Newham Inferred County Greater London Volume 15 Page 1457
Two sons - births on freebmd
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