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Only way to find out more is to buy the certificate.

I think you need to talk to your mum again. Tell her you don't want to waste money on buying certificates if she can just tell you what you need to know.

Rose

''.....my dads called gary johnson hes from west yorkshire so are his mother joyce and father dennis....''

Later you say Dennis isnt his father.... Who is then? if Dennis wasn't around when Gary was born, his name isn't going to be Johnson

i know im sorry i got mixed up but since i wrote that ive spoke to my nan my mums mum and she told me that dennis wasnt garys father nobody knows the name of garys father that ive asked sorry for getting mixed up im just in bits at the minute!! and trying to find out as much as i can, his mother was called joyce johnson she had type 1 diabeties and was in a wheelchair my father also had type 1 diabeties and now i have it, they was from wigan so i was told and dennis got with joyce after my father was born. i know that my father moved to blackpool in the 90s as my mother got a letter but she tore it up and didnt want me to know about it my nan has told me about this but this is as much info that anyone will tell me x

I don't see a death for a Joyce Johnson in the Wigan/Ince area in the 1990s.

Any idea when she was born?

You didn't say whether Gar(r)y's name is listed on your birth cert. You might discover some middle names.

Rose