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I am going to order the certificate. I was getting slightly confused! I've know looked on freebmd rootsweb as suggested by somebody else and now see how the info is obtained. I guess John Knott is a very common name too and it could take a while to find the right one. If I get the right one first time, that will be great. If not. I will keep searching. Thanks again...best wishes, rachel

You really must buy the Marriage Certificate Rachel. It will tell you the name of John's father and Sarah's Father. It will cost you £7 from the GRO.
There are so many John Knott's born at that time you need to be really sure you have the correct one and you need to be sure that the one you think it is was actually born in Salford and didn't just move there later.
You do really have to confirm what you think you know with actual evidence in the form of a certificate of birth or marriage.
Check and double check everything!
There is no point in creating a family tree if the information it contains is wrong.
Astra
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The only information I have is Sarah-Jane, born circa 1857 in Ardwick Manchester. From what you have found out, if she is a Sperit, Spirit, Spiret, it looks as though her surname has been mis-spelt over the years so that could make it more difficult. Thanks for your help and advice.

I think you need to buy the Marriage Cert before you make a decision like that.
Sarah refers to herself as Sarah J throughout the census records and was born in Ardwick as was Sarah Dwyer.
Sarah Sperit or Spirit wasn't and was just Sarah.
You must check everything before you continue or you will be following a completely wrong line.

Sarah Spiret
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester
Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 185
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Spiret 31
Mary Spiret 12
Vincent Spiret 9
John Spiret 7
Sarah Spiret 5
Hannah Smith 58

Sarah Spirit
Year of Registration: 1855
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Manchester (1837-1924)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 122

Thanks for the rootsweb tip - I'll try that now

PS - I am currently searching for Sarah Sperit birth which should be around 1857 - no luck so far...

For future ref, Rachel............

This info can be found easily on freebmd

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

Always check there first for any bmd info between 1837 and around 1935..................

As far as i know John's parents were Charles and Mary. I found him on a census so his year of birth could be 1853/1854. I think the Sarah Sperit is the most likely one to be his wife. It's an unusual surname so hopefully I will be able to find some info on her. thanks for all your help.

John was born in Salford so this could be his birth

John Knott
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Salford
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 59

1871

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DWYER, Henry Head M 44 1827 Lancashire
DWYER, Mary Wife F 40 1831 Lancashire
DWYER, Henry Son M 17 1854 Lancashire
DWYER, John Albert Son M 7 1864 Lancashire
DWYER, Sarah Jane Daughter F 15 1856 Lancashire
DWYER, Edith Maud Daughter F 5 1866 Lancashire
DWYER, Alfred Son M 3 1868 Lancashire
DWYER, Fredk Charles* Son M 0 1871 Lancashire

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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
3979 Folio:
52 Page:
49

Registration District:
Chorlton Sub District:
Ardwick EnumerationDistrict:
27 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Ardwick Municipal Borough:
Manchester Address:
Tempest Street, Ardwick, Manchester County:
Lancashire

Sarah Jane Dwyer
Year of Registration: 1856
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Chorlton
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 447

1881 - possible connection here

Charles KNOTT Head M Male 44 Manchester, Lancashire, England Shoemaker
Martha KNOTT Wife M Female 53 Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Eliza A. KNOTT Daur U Female 18 Salford, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver
Charles MC CARTHY Nephew U Male 10 Salford, Lancashire, England Scholar
James KNOTT Father M Male 68 Manchester, Lancashire, England Slipper Maker (Shoe)
Mary Ann KNOTT Mother M Female 67 Salford, Lancashire, England Slipper Binder (Shoe)


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Source Information:
Dwelling 20 West Gore St
Census Place Salford, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341947
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3967 / 28
Page Number 9

Sarah Jane Dwyer
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ardwick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 258
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Dwyer 38
Martha Dwyer 33
Emma Dwyer 12
Henry Dwyer 7
Sarah Jane Dwyer 4

Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%)
>>Dwyer Sarah Jane Manchester 8d 236
GREENHALGH Thomas Manchester 8d 236
>>KNOTT John Manchester 8d 236
Sperit Sarah Manchester 8d 236

Please can anybody help in tracing my Great, Great Grandmother's maiden name. Her name was Sarah-jane and she was born around 1857. She married John Knott who was born in 1854. They were from Manchester. They had two children, Emily in 1877 and Charles in 1879. I would be grateful for any help....Many thanks.