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Samantha

Samantha Report 5 Apr 2009 09:46

Is there anybody on this site that has this person in their tree?
I have little information on her but woiuld like to find out more about her.
What i do know is that she was born 1886 Brentford Middlesex
Married my great grandfather in 1903 Brentford
And died June 1918 Epsom Surrey

Any help would be most greatful

Samantha

Samantha Report 5 Apr 2009 10:23

Hello Barbara
I have already done this but not had a reply so was hoping that i might be able to get some help on this board

Thank you

Samantha

Sarah

Sarah Report 5 Apr 2009 10:29

Birth:

Name: Amy Zillah Brown
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Brentford
County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 184

She's not on census using middle name Zillah so there's a LOT of Amy Browns which could be her. If you use the above birth details you could order her birth certificate to find out parents.

This COULD be her in 1901:

Name: Amy Brown
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Priscilla
Gender: Female
Where born: Acton, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Acton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alban the Martyr
Town: Acton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: Brentford
Sub registration district: Acton
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 61
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Brown 48
Priscilla Brown 48
Emily Brown 20
Albert Brown 18
Amy Brown 15

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 5 Apr 2009 10:31


Name: Amy Zillah Brown
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Brentford
County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 184

Sue C

Sue C Report 5 Apr 2009 10:33

1891

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BROWN, Charles E Head Married M 31 1860 Agricultural Labourer
Chiswick
Middlesex
BROWN, Zillah Wife Married F 27 1864
Stourport
Worcestershire
BROWN, Charles S Son M 11 1880
Acton
Middlesex
BROWN, Emily E Daughter F 10 1881
Acton
Middlesex
BROWN, Herbert E Son M 7 1884
Acton
Middlesex
BROWN, Amy Z Daughter F 4 1887
Acton
Middlesex

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
1037 Folio:
105 Page:
43

Registration District:
Brentford Sub District:
Acton EnumerationDistrict:
14 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Albans

Civil Parish:
Acton Municipal Borough:
Address:
50, Middle Street, Acton County:
Middlesex

Samantha

Samantha Report 5 Apr 2009 10:35

Hi Sarah

Thank you for that, it will give me something to work with and move forward i hope.
I just wonder why she ends up in Epsom when no other family members lived out that way (weird)

Samantha

Samantha

Samantha Report 5 Apr 2009 10:38

Thank you Jean

Sue C
I see that the mother's name was Zillah which would explain the middle name.
Thank You

Samantha

Sarah

Sarah Report 5 Apr 2009 10:39

This is the same family in 1891, looking at the image the wife's name could be Zillah, rather than Lillah (could have been a nickname for Priscilla). The middle initial in Amy's name looks like the same letter as her mother's name starts with, so she could be Amy Z. Brown, giving you as match.

Name: Amy K Brown
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles E
Mother's Name: Lillah
Gender: Female
Where born: Acton, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Acton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alban
Town: Acton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: Brentford
Sub registration district: Acton
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles E Brown 37
Lillah Brown 37
Charles L Brown 11
Emily E Brown 10
Herbert E Brown 7
Amy K Brown 4

Sarah

Sarah Report 5 Apr 2009 10:42

I should add that places of bith match totally with those families in 1891 and 1901, despite the difference in wife's name so they're definitely the same family.

Samantha

Samantha Report 5 Apr 2009 10:51

So we know that its the same family so i dont have to get myself confused on this one (thank godness).

And i know that she married my great grandfather in 1903 in Brentford, never found any children for them and that she died in Epsom 1918 with no family around (something not right there)

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 5 Apr 2009 10:53

Did she marry Leonard Hatcher?

Samantha

Samantha Report 5 Apr 2009 10:57

Hello Claire

Yes she did

Samantha

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 5 Apr 2009 11:01

Hi Samantha, this is very odd, I can find her on the 1911 living in the East Preston area of Sussex but I can't find him

Samantha

Samantha Report 5 Apr 2009 11:11

Mmmm i wonder if he stayed in the Middlesex area as i know he was living in Wraysbury in the 1920s.

Something really not adding up here.



°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 5 Apr 2009 11:44

It might be worth looking a Amy's death cert to see who the informant was or the 1911 to see who she was living with.

I take it that Leonard had children with another woman but I can't see a second marriage so perhaps he & Amy parted

Samantha

Samantha Report 5 Apr 2009 12:21

I will have to find info for the death cert and order it to find out who the infomant was and how/what she died of.

Leonard went on to have 8 children
Lilian 1917 - 1934
Lionel 1919 - 2001
Leonard 1922 - 2001
Leslie 1925 - 1988
Lawrance 1928 - 1942
Lewis 1928 - 1942
Lydia 1930 -
Jeff 1934 - 1995

All of these were with Alice Hammond, however he did not marry her until 1943

Samantha

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 5 Apr 2009 12:32

Samantha I don't think the Amy Hatcher who died 1918 Epsom is your's, she's tooooo old!

I suspect that Amy Zillah was very much alive & kicking when Leonard's children were born

Samantha

Samantha Report 5 Apr 2009 12:56

Oh lord, looks like i got my wires crossed.
Oh well more research and looking up to do.
So i wonder what happened to her and when she died?

Samantha

Samantha Report 5 Apr 2009 13:16

I cant even find her on the 1911 census, under Hatcher or Brown.
Why?

Samantha

Samantha Report 5 Apr 2009 13:41

Ok have now managed to find her at long last on the 1911 census, showing that the marriage lasted 7 years aged 24 and no children which means she would have died later than 1918 at the age that she was in 1911.
Gosh how did i get so confused with the 1918 one?????