Find Ancestors

Top tip - using the Genes Reunited community

Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!

  • The Genes Reunited community is made up of millions of people with similar interests. Discover your family history and make life long friends along the way.
  • You will find a close knit but welcoming group of keen genealogists all prepared to offer advice and help to new members.
  • And it's not all serious business. The boards are often a place to relax and be entertained by all kinds of subjects.
  • The Genes community will go out of their way to help you, so don’t be shy about asking for help.

Boards

Quick Search

Single word search

Tools

Findmypast DNA Banner

Icons

  • New posts
  • No new posts
  • Thread closed
  • Stickied, new posts
  • Stickied, no new posts

Joseph Brown b. 1865 - married to Louisa

Login to Add Reply Watch This
ProfilePosted byOptionsPost Date

David

David Report 12 Mar 2009 20:58

Hi, i'm struggling a bit to find a surname for my great great grandmother Louisa. She was married to Joseph Brown b. 1865. Their first child (Florence) was born in 1889, so i suspect the marriage was sometime a few years before that. Would have been in the Liversedge area of Yorkshire.

Any help gratefully received!
Thanks,
David

Researching:
Elliott

BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 12 Mar 2009 21:07

Hi David Their is this marriage index --in the Liversedge area

Marriages Sep 1887
******BARLOW Louisa Ann Dewsbury 9b 860
********BROWN Joseph Dewsbury 9b 860
Littlewood George Dewsbury 9b 860
MURRAY Ann Dewsbury 9b 860


I think the best bet is to get Florences birth cert--this should tell who her parents were.

Researching:
Photo of Lea Cottages, Wentworth, South Yorks.----it was home to my Maternal grandparents and their 11 children for many years--the ROBINSON's from Wentworth--also reseaching HOBSON, Rotherham and Sheffield area -- TERRY's from South Milford--PAINTER's from Wakefield,West Yorks area and Swinton / Mexborough South Yorks. SHILLITO from Wombwell South Yorks

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 12 Mar 2009 21:08

He married Louisa Ann Barlow in 1887, Dewsbury

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 12 Mar 2009 21:13

1881 Liversedge
Laura Barlow 35, widow, born Northampton
James Barlow 33, visitor, born Durham
Louisa A. Barlow 16
James Barlow 8
Amos Barlow 6
Dinah Barlow 3
Henry Barlow 11 months

All children born Liversedge

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 12 Mar 2009 21:25

1871
Amos Barlow 30
Laura Barlow 27
Louisa A Barlow 5
Samuel Barlow 2

David

David Report 12 Mar 2009 21:27

Hi,

Thank you all for the help and quick responses! :o)

David

Researching:
Elliott

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 12 Mar 2009 21:37

1901
James Barlow 52
Laura Barlow 54
Diana Barlow 23
Henry Barlow 21
John Barlow 19
Edward B Barlow 18
Thomas Barlow 17
Joseph Barlow 15
Laura Barlow 12
Annie Barlow 10
James Thompson 20

David

David Report 12 Mar 2009 21:50

Hi Seaham Lass,

Just trying to make sense of all the names!..

From the 1871 census we get:
Amos Barlow 30
Laura Barlow 27
Louisa A Barlow 5
So i'm assuming Amos and Laura are Louisa's parents.

In 1881 Liversedge Laura is listed as a widow, and there's a James Barlow 33, listed as visitor (so James is possibly a relative?... Amos's brother maybe?).

Then in 1901 you have Laura and James apparently living together, but a bunch more children...

Am I reading that right?

Best Wishes,
David

Researching:
Elliott

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 12 Mar 2009 22:10

That's what the census records say but I took a look on Ancestry and someone has these people in their tree and they have James Barlow marrying Laura Vials in 1864 in Dewsbury and that he was born in Durham and she was born in 1845 at Market Harborough, Northants and baptised 6th dec 1845 at Clipston to John Vials (1815, Kelmarsh, Northants and Ann Dodson (1816, Arthingworth, Northants)

If it's of any help, the person who has these people in their tree list all of Laura's children but puts a question mark beside each of their names.....I don't think that they really know what's going on either.

Might be worth bearing in mind that one of their son's Edward, has the middle name Burnside....might at some point be significant.
Have to go of line now..........for now I'll leave you to cope with the imminent headache.......take two paracetamol now !!!

David

David Report 13 Mar 2009 20:17

Okay...

Amos Barlow marries Laura (?) - probably sometime before 1854. They have 5 kids and are living together in 1881:
Amos Barlow 30
Laura Barlow 27
Louisa A. Barlow 16 (my great great grandmother)
James Barlow 8
Amos Barlow 6
Dinah Barlow 3
Henry Barlow 11 months

Amos dies sometime between 1871 and 1881 as Laura (?) is a widow in 1881. James Barlow visiting her.

James Barlow marries a Laura Vials in 1864?

Louisa Ann Barlow marries Joseph Brown in 1887

In 1901 James and Laura (presumably nee Vials) are living together with 8 kids:
James Barlow 52
Laura Barlow 54
Diana Barlow 23 (poss. Dinah - Amos's child)
Henry Barlow 21 (poss. Amos's child)
John Barlow 19
Edward B Barlow 18
Thomas Barlow 17
Joseph Barlow 15
Laura Barlow 12
Annie Barlow 10
James Thompson 20

So... anyone got any suggestions?

I'm wondering if the James Barlow m. Laura Vials in 1864 is a mistype, and it's actually 1884... that would make more sense... Although I still don't know where James fits in. I'm assuming he was a brother or cousin of Amos who Laura married after Amos died...

I suppose it's also possible both Amos and James married 2 different Laura's. Then when Amos dies and something happens to Amos's Laura as well, so James and his Laura take in the children... bit of a stretch that though probably!

So... plan of action...

1. I need to try and find a maiden name for the Laura that Amos Barlow married.

2. I need an earlier census for Amos, to see if he had a brother called James.

3. Death certificate or date for Amos would probably be useful.

Phew... time to do some digging!

Cheers,
Dave :o)

Researching:
Elliott