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Stevie
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7 May 2009 01:29 |
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Ah you back Brian. I'm no further with this mate.
I'll e-mail you later today. Thurs 7th.
Steve
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Brian
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7 May 2009 00:13 |
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are you any nearer to finding nora's relatives i have one but quite distant my goal is to find one of her nearest relatives let me know what you think brian
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Brian
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7 May 2009 00:11 |
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steve i have moved my email address to a sky ac. very simalar to old but minus the world. and just .com could you email me i need to get back to this now i'm sorted. brian
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Stevie
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24 Mar 2009 14:45 |
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Some more background info of parents of George (grand parents of Nora)
1861 Census Name: Thomas Curtis Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Wurelington, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Newton County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Rugby Sub registration district: Crick ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 55 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Curtis 29 Sarah Curtis 26 Henry Lock 7 John Curtis 5 Ann Curtis 3 Mary Elizabeth Curtis 2 Thomas Curtis 11 Mo
Birth for Henry Lock (later shown as Henry Lock Curtis) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1853 Lock Henry Rugby 6d 388 ------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriage for Thomas Curtis & Sarah Lock ------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1855 (>99%) CURTIS Thomas Rugby 6d 631 LOCK Sarah Rugby 6d 631 ------------------------------------------------------- 1891 Census. Name: Thomas Curtis Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Wardington, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: The Martyrs County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Employment status: View Image Registration district: Leicester Sub registration district: West Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Curtis 60 Sarah Curtis 57 Sarah Ann Curtis 26 Elizabeth Curtis 21 Harriet Phoebe Curtis 19 Ellen Ann Curtis 17 John Wm Brown 18 1901 Census. Name: Sarah Curtis Age: 67 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Churchover, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Leicester Formerly St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: The Martyrs County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Employment status: View Image Registration district: Leicester Sub registration district: South Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 51 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 153 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Curtis 67 Sarah A Curtis 36 Elizabeth A Curtis 31 Harriet Phebe Curtis 28
Probable Death for Thomas Curtis. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Dec 1895 Curtis Thomas 64 Leicester 7a 150 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Probable Death for Sarah Curtis. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Mar 1918 CURTIS Sarah 84 Leicester 7a 350 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Alison
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15 Mar 2009 08:54 |
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Irene had no direct descendants - she never married. George H and Stanley had children but I don't know names yet - family history has them living in California, as yet unproved. I didn't know about Nora so cannot say whether she moved to Basingstoke - certainly don't know of any family living there, but wasn't until I started my research that I discovered George Snr and family living in Hampshire. Cannot find death reference for George Snr either - again, family history has them emigrating but cannot find this at the moment.
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Brian
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14 Mar 2009 22:44 |
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alison do you think nora and harold may have moved or lived in basingstoke not so far from my home where i found the postcards. d you know of relatives born there. steevie will prob come up trumps this guy knows more than i will ever know. some people just have the knack. i wanted to send info to Southampton Evening Echo at some point but early yet as family need to be found in basingstoke area. Nora and harold may have taken family to usa given familys sucsess there. brian. lets try and contact direct dec of Irene, George Herbert and Stanley in the usa brian
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Brian
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14 Mar 2009 22:32 |
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we seem to be getting nearer to nora curtis hopefully some one will be able to add to this re her direct dec with i think harold smith there must be some one out there who can help. ive tried possibs in basing with know luck yet but time will help us here. and some good work in background. alison may need to ask about nora good luck all hope to add you too info given so freely at the cost of spending time on your own tree's. I guess i'm included.
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Alison
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14 Mar 2009 14:34 |
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George Curtis was my 2x great uncle. He was married twice - first time to Mary Frances Brown, 2 children Frances Irene (Reenie) and George Herbert; second time to Caroline Gertrude M Greenwood, 3 children Stanley, Doris and now Nora. Irene, George Herbert and Stanley all emigrated to Pennsylvania, USA. Doris died in early infancy. George Snr's youngest sister was my great grandmother - Ellen. I have had contact with Brian Cove and given him all this information - Clements not Clement is my family tree - Alison on here and ali on ancestry. I did not have any further info on George and his family as I have not yet subscribed to the 1911 census. Nora has a cousin still living - my great uncle, my dad and his 3 brothers are also still living, as are many other cousins all directly linked to the Curtis line. I have looked for further information on Nora and Harold C Smith without any success as yet. Alison
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Stevie
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11 Mar 2009 20:05 |
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And here is Thomas, Sarah & children in 1881 Census
Name: Thomas Curtis Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Wroughton, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Cosby County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address: Main Street (Yard) Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View Image Occupation: Waggoner Carman Registration district: Blaby Sub registration district: Enderby ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Curtis 50 Sarah Curtis 46 John Curtis 25 ...occupation Railway Labourer Mary E. Curtis 21 occupation Boot Upper Maker William Curtis 17 Cow Boy (Ag Lab) Edward Curtis 13 Elizabeth A. Curtis 11 Harriet P. Curtis 9... b1872 Harborough Fields, Warwickshire, England Ellen A. Curtis 7... b1874 Harborough Fields, Warwickshire, England
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11 Mar 2009 19:10 |
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1871 Census. Parents & Siblings of George Curtis.
Name: Thomas Curtis Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Wardington, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Harborough Magna Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Harborough Magna County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: No address shown Occupation: Agricultural Labourer Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Rugby Sub registration district: Rugby ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Curtis 40 ...b1831 Wardington, Oxford Shire occupation Agricultural Labourer Sarah Curtis 37..b1834 Churchover Warwickshire Henry Lock Curtis 17... b1854 Churchover Warwickshire John Curtis 15...b1856 Cosford, Warwickshire Mary Elizabeth Curtis 12...b1859 Cosford, Warwickshire Thomas Curtis 10..b1861, Harborough Magna, Warwickshire George Curtis 8...b1863, Cosford, Warwickshire Sarah Ann Curtis 6..b1865, Cosford, Warwickshire William Curtis 5...b1866, Cosford, Warwickshire Edward Curtis 3 ..b1868, Harborough Magna, Warwickshire, Elizabeth Ann Curtis 1...b1870 Harborough Magna, Warwickshire,
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Stevie
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11 Mar 2009 18:23 |
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Doris Curtis appears in 1901 census but not in 1911,
Found this death registration for her;.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Dec 1903 Curtis Doris Mary Age 2yrs S. Stoneham 2c 20 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Stevie
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9 Mar 2009 19:42 |
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To keep the information found together. Here's the info I today
1901 Census
Name: George Curtis Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Gertrude C M Gender: Male Where born: Cosford, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Hound Ecclesiastical parish: Hound St Edward or St Mary County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Occupation:.......Soldier Qtr Master Sergeant, Staff Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: South Stoneham Sub registration district: St Mary Extra ED, institution, or vessel: Royal Victoria Hospital Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George Curtis 38 Gertrude C M Curtis 30 Irene Curtis 11 ......Daughter born 1890 in Aldershot Herbert Curtis 10....Son born 1891 in Aldershot Stanley Curtis 2 Doris Curtis 3/12...Daughter born Dec1900 or Jan 01in Netley
So we've now found Herbert + 2 unknown sisters Also this where the connection with the Royal Victoria Hospital comes in. Also in the 1911 census, it says he & Gertrude where married for 11yrs. (Needs to be verified). If so then he was previously married...another mystery Mr Watson -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1901 Curtis Doris Mary S. Stoneham 2c 53 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Possible birth registration for Herbert -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1892 Curtis Herbert Portsea 2b 393 (Portsmouth Hants) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
And Birth registrations for Nora & Stanley found 08/03/09 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1902 Curtis Nora Constance S. Stoneham 2c 55 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And this the birth for Stanley -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1898
Curtis Stanley John S. Stoneham 2c 62 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Vicci
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8 Mar 2009 23:44 |
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in genes reunited click on the button that says Search Trees
enter the details about George Curtis and it should find the 2 trees that I referred to
you can then click on "find out more" and send a message to the tree owner.
for the one on ancestry copy and paste the link I gave onto your internet browser and hopefully the tree will come up and you can click on the tree owners name and contatc them. If you ahve problems with that then let me know.
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Brian
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8 Mar 2009 23:27 |
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how can i do that sorry a bit new to this brian
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Vicci
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8 Mar 2009 23:20 |
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Yes the Clement family tree has Nora's parent's on but Nora left off probably as was born after the 1901 census and maybe the tree owner did not know about her.
The Clements in the tree all seem to come from Leicester
It would be worth contacting the tree owner ali and also the 2 on GR.
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Brian
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8 Mar 2009 23:03 |
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victoria are you saying that nora maybe connected to clement tree funny thing is my nan was clement and also lived in same area am i going to find that these postcards may well connect to my family?
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Vicci
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8 Mar 2009 22:58 |
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there are 2 trees on GR with George Curtis
George 1863 Cosford, Warwickshire, England tree owner Cindy George 1862 Cosford, Warwickshire, England tree owner Alison
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Brian
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8 Mar 2009 22:57 |
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i have just found nora born 1902 nora constance curtis jfm 1902 south stoneham looks right and just read marr nora c curtis match it seems. we are geeting there wow. cheers guys.
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Vicci
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8 Mar 2009 22:52 |
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these might be the children of Nora
Births Sep 1929 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Beryl J Curtis Basingstoke 2c 390
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1932 (90%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Edna D Curtis Basingstoke 2c 342
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1933 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SMITH Phyllis J Curtis Bournemouth 2b 935
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1934 (92%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Cyril R Curtis Basingstoke 2c 353
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Vicci
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8 Mar 2009 22:48 |
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this might be the marraige of Nora
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1924 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Curtis Nora C Smith S.Stoneham 2c 138 Diaper Louisa Hall S. Stoneham 2c 138 Hall Harry G Diaper S.Stoneham 2c 138 >>Smith Harold C Curtis S.Stoneham 2c 138
***I have also found this tree on ancestry that has George and Gertrude and children (but not Nora)
http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/pt/person.aspx?tid=27760&pid=-2144159686 Clements family tree owner ali356
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