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Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 201 Send Message	DUSTY	Report	21 Feb 2009 15:11
	A COUSIN OF MINE SEEMS TO HAVE FOUND AN ENTRY FOR MY GRANDMOTHER'S LOST RECORDS. 1911 CENSUS SHE WAS NAMED AS LIZZIE SMITH, INSTEAD OF ELIZABETH BORN 1900, FATHER BEING CHARLEY SMITH AND MOTHER BEING OLIVE, NO OTHER RECORDS TO BE FOUND GOING BACK. ANY CLUES OUT THERE??? ALSO BROTHER'S CHARLEY BORN 1901,WILLIE 1903, JOHN 1905 AND ERNEST 1911 PLACE BORN PLAISTOW WEST HAM I WOULD BE VERY GRATEFUL FOR ANY HELP DUSTY
	Researching: Champion, Smith, Fleury,Turner,Page,Milburn..Custom House
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 29,085 Send Message	Gwyn in Kent	Report	21 Feb 2009 15:27
	What was the occupation of Charley the father? There is a family in 1901 with some similar names in West Ham. Father Charles is a house painter. Mother Elizabeth. Daughter is called Olive,( 13 months ) with baby brother, Charles 6 weeks Class: RG13; Piece: 1571; Folio: 62; Page: 7.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23,482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	21 Feb 2009 15:29
	Just out of interest, Dusty, my grandmother was also a Lizzie. When I started doing family tree I naturally looked for Elizabeth. Couldn't find any records until I found out that she was always Lizzie and never Elizabeth. This must be your Lizzie but I can't find her on the 1901 census. Births Sep 1900 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Lizzie W. Ham 4a 19 I also looked at the one that Gwyn posted, suspiciously similar!
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 201 Send Message	DUSTY	Report	21 Feb 2009 15:39
	THAT HAS GOT ME ALL CONFUSED NOW, I DO KNOW THAT HER BIRTHDAY WAS 20TH FEB ABT 1900, AND MY COUSINS ARE SURE HER FATHER WAS CHARLEY AND MOTHER OLIVE, CHARLEY DIED IN ONE OF THE LAST BOMBS TO HIT CANNING TOWN AND OLIVE DIED IN 1940 SHE( MY GRANDMOTHER NOT OLIVE) HAD A SISTER DAISY THAT WAS BORN BETWEEN 1912 AND 1918 NOW THEY ARE ALL MY CARDS SO TO SPEAK ON THE TABLE
	Researching: Champion, Smith, Fleury,Turner,Page,Milburn..Custom House
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23,482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	21 Feb 2009 15:44
	Do you know exactly when Ernest was born, Dusty? There are these in West Ham. If he happens to be the last one, it's when they started putting mother's maiden name. This one is Goode. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1911 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Ernest J W. Ham 4a 221 Smith Ernest J B W. Ham 4a 485 Smith Ernest J M W. Ham 4a 67 Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1911 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Ernest E Goode W.Ham 4a 153
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23,482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	21 Feb 2009 15:48
	There's a lot of Daisy Smiths born West Ham between 1912-1918 but none with mother's maiden name Goode.
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23,482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	21 Feb 2009 15:50
	Possible Charles' Death? Name: SMITH, CHARLES Initials: C Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Civilian Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead Age: 69 Date of Death: 14/01/1945 Additional information: of 32 Garvary Road, Custom House. Died at St. Mary's Hospital. Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead Reporting Authority: WEST HAM, COUNTY BOROUGH
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 29,085 Send Message	Gwyn in Kent	Report	21 Feb 2009 15:51
	I can't see an Olive SMITH born at the right time and area on freebmd. I wonder if the 1901 enumerator switched mother and daughter's names....? Gwyn
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23,482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	21 Feb 2009 15:54
	Yes, Gwyn, I think you're right!
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 201 Send Message	DUSTY	Report	21 Feb 2009 16:03
	MY GOD YOU ARE ALL SO CLEVER ,I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR AGES AND NEVER THOUGHT THEY COULD HAVE SWITCHED MOTHER AND DAUGHTER NAMES,IT NEVER ENTERED MY MIND. ALSO THANKS FOR THE CHARLES SMITH DEATH REG. SO DOES THAT MEAN I CAN NOW ORDER A BITH CERT WITH FATHER NOW SHOULD I PUT CHARLES OR CHARLEY?? AND MOTHER OLIVE ELIZABETH BORN ABT 20TH FEB 1900? IF SO I WILL DO IT RIGHT NOW!
	Researching: Champion, Smith, Fleury,Turner,Page,Milburn..Custom House
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 29,085 Send Message	Gwyn in Kent	Report	21 Feb 2009 16:12
	If you are positive about Lizzie / Elizabeth's birthday, can she be the Lizzie registered in September quarter? Perhaps we need to do a bit more searching....? I have never asked for a parent name check, but have heard GRO need you to be exact or they wont send the cert. Let's have a look for other Elizabeth / Lizzie births in the right area and see if we can eliminate any, so we find the correct one. Gwyn
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 5,276 Send Message	ChristineinPortugal	Report	21 Feb 2009 16:23
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 5,276 Send Message	On the 1911 census did it say how long Charles and Olive had been married? Christine
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 201 Send Message	DUSTY	Report	21 Feb 2009 16:25
	YES IT SAYS 14 YEARS, ADDRESS IS( IN 1911) 68 GARVARY ROAD CANNING TOWN WEST HAM
	Researching: Champion, Smith, Fleury,Turner,Page,Milburn..Custom House
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 201 Send Message	DUSTY	Report	21 Feb 2009 16:30
	GWYN, DID YOU HAVE THE ADDRESS ON THE 1901 CENSUS?? AS I CANNOT SEEN TO FIND THE RIGHT RECORD FOR SOME REASON DUSTY
	Researching: Champion, Smith, Fleury,Turner,Page,Milburn..Custom House
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23,482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	21 Feb 2009 16:33
	The 1901 census was 37 Corporation St., West Ham. Sorry, Gwyn, just happened to be looking at it when the message came through. Easy to find using this: Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1571; Folio: 62; Page: 7.
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 5,276 Send Message	ChristineinPortugal	Report	21 Feb 2009 16:39
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 5,276 Send Message	Can't find a marriage for Charles Smith to Olive. Address in 1901 is 37, Corporation St. 1901 England Census about Charles Smith Name: Charles Smith Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: N Civil Parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: West Ham Sub registration district: Plaistow ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 34 Household Members: Name Age Charles Smith 29 Elizabeth Smith 22 Charles Smith 6 weeks Olive Smith 11 months Christine
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 29,085 Send Message	Gwyn in Kent	Report	21 Feb 2009 16:43
	The image in 1901 shows Olive as 13 months. Charles SMITH doesn't know where he was born.... Doh ! Gwyn
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 5,276 Send Message	ChristineinPortugal	Report	21 Feb 2009 16:46
Member Since: March 2006 Posts: 5,276 Send Message	Thanks for correcting the age Gwyn, obviously mistranscribed wrong. Elizabeth, mother born Bermondsey. Christine
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 3,590 Send Message	EVEIE	Report	21 Feb 2009 17:09
	Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1911 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SMITH Henry B Goode Rotherham 9c 1630 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1911 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Cecil H Goode Aston 6d 803 Smith Ernest E Goode W.Ham 4a 153 Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1912 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Evelyn M Goode Rochford 4a 1455 Smith John E Goode Tamworth 6b 868 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1912 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Alfred T Goode Dudley 6c 67 Smith Stephen W Goode Aston 6d 499 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1913 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SMITH John C Goode Dudley 6b 1964 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1913 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Rose A Goode W.Ham 4a 295 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1914 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith John N Goode Leicester 7a 449 Smith Sidney Goode Aston 6d 976 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1914 (94%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Edith M Goode Blaby 7a 63 Smith Mary E Goode Rochford 4a 1387 Smith Walter Goode Aston 6d 881 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1915 (99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Hilda M Goode Coventry 6d 1461 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1915 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Joan B Goode Rotherham 9c 1617 Smith Winifred E D Goode Tewkesbury 6a 771 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1915 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Iris E Goode W. Ham 4a 256 Smith Percy W Goode Leicester 7a 445 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1916 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith (Male) Goode Tamworth 6b 715 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1916 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Kathleen B Goode Rotherham 9c 1626 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1916 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Eric L Goode Dudley 6b 1669 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1916 (92%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Frederick R Goode Holborn 1b 922 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1917 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Joan B Goode Coventry 6d 1277 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1917 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith George E Goode Kettering 3b 245 Smith Leonard Goode Aston 6d 752 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1917 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Lilian H Goode W. Ham 4a 194 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1918 (99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Eileen B Goode Rotherham 9c 1423 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1918 (92%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Hilda J Goode Aston 6d 637 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1919 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Douglas W Goode Leicester 7a 464 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1920 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Joan R Goode Willesden 3a 815 Smith Raymond H Goode Coventry 6d 1783 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1920 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Edna M Goode Dudley 6b 2051 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1922 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Joan L Goode Willesden 3a 456 Smith Joyce B Goode Leicester 7a 478 Smith William B Goode King's N. 6c 85 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1922 (99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Kenneth R Goode Rochford 4a 1130 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1923 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Joan M Goode King's N. 6d 48 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1924 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Doris Goode Aston 6d 750 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1925 (99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Raymond Goode Leicester 7a 407 ---------------------
	Researching: parsley/rogers/ellis/forsyth/dempster/warrington/franks/woodward
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 201 Send Message	DUSTY	Report	21 Feb 2009 17:11
	thank you all very very much! i will be going around to a friends for the weekend soon but will try to log on with thier pc. a lot of pieces have put in the puzzle now,which should give me a lot more to go on. once again thank you all very much dusty
	Researching: Champion, Smith, Fleury,Turner,Page,Milburn..Custom House

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