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I've looked high and low for the death of my greatgrandmother, Mary Storer. Her maiden name was Turner and she married Henry Storer in 1882. She had 2 children, George and Mabel in 1884 and 1886. There is another child, Frederick James born in 1892 but his mother's maiden name is shown as Talbot. I'm wondering if it's the same mother or had Mary nee Turner died. All of the children were born in Hucknall Torkard, Nottingham.
Any advice or help would be appreciated.

do you have them on any of the census records

do you know approx dob and whether she is on the 1891 census, if so where?

1901??

Name: Mabel Storer
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Hucknall
Ecclesiastical parish: Hucknall St Mary
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Hucknall Torkard
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 232
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Storer 42
George H Storer 16
Mabel Storer 12

henry says hes married but no wife with him
edit,the original also reads that mabel is 14 if looked at closely
vivienne

I've found Mary on the 1891 census living at 11 Watnall Road, Hucknall Torkard but she isn't on the 1901 or 1911 census. Henry is living with George and Mabel at 61 Carlingford Rd, Hucknall Torkard in 1901. Frederick doesn't show up on any census but I have his birth certificate and I know he survived as he was my grandfather. I've worked out from the census that Mary was born in 1864 in Foleshill, Warwickshire. Henry was 1859 also in Foleshill.

1901

Name: Henry Storer
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Foleshill, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Hucknall
Ecclesiastical parish: Hucknall St Mary
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Hucknall Torkard
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 232
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Storer 42 married
George H Storer 16
Mabel Storer 12




1891
Name: Mary Stover
[Mary Storer]
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Foleshill, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Hucknall Torkard
Ecclesiastical parish: Hucknall Torkard
Town: Hucknall Torkard
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Bulwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Stover 32
Mary Stover 27
George Stover 6
Mabel Stover 4
John Hall 28




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That's all the right family but no sign of Mary or Frederick, that's why I'm wondering if Mary died and Frederick was shipped off to family to be cared for.

who are the parents on your fredericks birth cert if mary was a.nee. turner and then we have a talbot come into the equation?

The parent's on Fredericks birth certificate are Henry Storer and Mary Storer nee Talbot but on George and Mabels's certificates it says that the father is Henry Storer and the mother is Mary nee Turner.

well on the 1901 census henry says he is married so there is of course the possibility that mary nee turner was in an institution [and most of them the enumerators only gave initials to so very hard to find if not the workhouse] and he had fred with mary talbot and did the honourable thing by them and gave him a name,have you looked for him under talbot?

I've tried under Talbot but of course I could have missed him! I feel as though I have running around in circles with this one.

there is always the possibility that mary talbot being a different mary has married someone after freds birth and they are under the new"husbands" name somewhere

I was wondering much the same thing...my grandfather was always a Storer though and Henry attended his wedding in 1926. I'm having a look through any workhouse records I can find for 1901, just in case!

do you have the birth cert of fred james? does it give the mother's first name / address of where born etc

I think his marriage is 1926 nottingham 1st qtr 7b p 559 spouse GEE

Henry Storer and MAry turner marreid 1882 at Foleshill, there is another henry Storer who married in 1880 also at Foleshill.

There are also 10 marraiges for Henry Storer between 1879 and 1890, so Frederick James's father could have been another Henry.

just seen your last comment re the wedding

there is a Mary A Storer in the workhouse in 1901

possible death of MAry
Name: Mary Storer
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 45
District: Nottingham
County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 231 (click to see others on page)

That's the right marriage for Fred J and Gee (Caroline Ann). It's the same Henry that married in 1880, he married Eliza Barnett who died in 1881 after giving birth to Eliza Storer (also in 1881). He didn't seem to hang about remarrying.
Fred's birth certificate is very hard to read. It definately says Mary formerly Talbot and the only part of the address that I can make out is ...Street, Hucknall Torkard.

I've had a look at Mary A in the workhouse but I'm not sure as I don't think that my Mary had a middle name and she was born in Warwickshire, this one was born in Nottingham. Think I'll call it a night. Many thanks for looking...any more ideas welcomed. It's a real puzzle!

sorry pamela,i admit defeat and put this one in my file with my own awkward family to be looked at later,probably in 1921, if im still here by then of course
vivienne

Have you tried looking for them in 1911 census ?



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