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I did have a look for a baptism in Lancs CRO last week but sadly they do not keep the records for Ashton-u-Lyne

PROGRESS!!!!!!!! well of sorts!!!!!!!
William Whitworth's birth cert arrived today
William Whitworth b1843 Duncan St Ashton under Lyne
Father: Robert Jones Whitworth,schoolmaster
Mother: Ann Parker
All i can find is their marriage 1842 in Middleton
hunt though i might cant seem to find any other documentation ie;census birth or deaths for any of them ,can anyone help,kind regards lisaxxx

robert's death

Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1868

WHITWORTH Robert Jones 51 Ashton Town

wiliam's death

Deaths Dec 1894 (>99%)

WHITWORTH William Jones 51 Bury 8c 350

possible death for Mary Jane

Deaths Jun 1934 (98%)
Whitworth Mary J 86 Bury 8c 469

Death of Ann??

Ann Whitworth
1858 Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Ashton Under Lyne
County: Cheshire, Lancashire
Volume: 8d Page: 340

Re-marriage of Robert

Robert Jones Whitworth/Mary Hobson
1858 Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Ashton Under Lyne
County: Cheshire, Lancashire
Volume: 8d Page: 690


1861 census

Robert Whitworth
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashton Under Lyme, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton Under Lyne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Ashton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub registration district: Ashton Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Whitworth 43
Mary Whitworth 34
William Whitworth 17 mechanic
Whitworth 14 (image says Thomas)
Sarah Whitworth 9
George Whitworth 7
Ann Whitworth 1


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2984; Folio: 52; Page: 2; GSU roll: 543059.

The 1851 cesus for Ashton-under-Lyne was for the most part warter damaged and has not been filmed. The Lancashire FHS has transcribed it and has issued it on CD.

Andy

you might find this site worth a look
http://www.1851-unfilmed.org.uk
this has a name search plus an image lookup (for a small fee)

eg

WHITWORTH Sarah Chorlton RD, Chorlton-on-Medlock 3C/192/1
WHITWORTH Jane Chorlton RD, Chorlton-on-Medlock 3C/192/2
WHITWORTH Alfred Chorlton RD, Chorlton-on-Medlock 3C/192/3
WHITWORTH Robert Chorlton RD, Chorlton-on-Medlock 3C/192/4

from the index numbers this could be Robert with mother Sarah and siblings

edit - forget the above comment - Robert would have been married by 1851 but it is worth a look and note for future reference

THE STORY SO FAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joshua Whitworth b1761 Ashton-u-Lyne
Christened
30 Aug 1761 St Michaels AUL
record on familysearch.org
marriage-Betty Simister
29th April 1784 St Michaels AUL
record on familysearch.org
died 1845 AUL
record on Ancestry

son of above
Samuel Whitworth b1796 AUL
christened
24th July 1796 StMichaels,AUL
record on familysearch.org
census records found
1841,51,61,71
all on Ancestry
Now,here is the strange bit!!!!!!!!!!
Samual married twice
firstly to Mary Jones (details from another Genes member)
they say the marriage took place in 1818 but as yet i cant seem to pin down any record of this!!!
But i have found a marriage for a couple ,same names,married 1801!!!!!!!
Although all my census records confirm their ages,making them too young to be the couple i've found on familysearch.org!!!!!!!
2nd spouse
Elizabeth Walker
married 1855
record on Ancestry

The elusive ROBERT JONES WHITWORTH b1818 AUL
Try as i might,cant find any records on either familysearch or Ancestry for his birth!!!!!!!!!!!!
1861 census
living in Stamford st AUL
cant find him on 1841 or 51 !!!!!!!
1st marriage
Ann Parker in 1842 AUL
2nd marriage
Mary Hobson in 1858 AUL
both records on Ancestry
Died a/m/j 1868 aged 51 AUL
So there we have it !!!!!
a few gaps & niggles
if anyone out there would mind casting their eye over this for me i'd be most grateful,as i said a few gaps but the real niggle is sam & mary's marriage.thanks guys,kind regards Lisaxxx

is this the 1801 marriage you found

Marriage: 15 Feb 1801 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Samuel Whitworth, Milnrow,
Mary Jones, Birchinley
W: Rt Brearley

Hi Ann,yes thats it,im really confused now,as i said above,all census records show approx same ages of sam,so 1801 as a marriage date is way too early,but i cant find another.

Sorry deleted info by mistake
Robert Jones Whitworth b1818 ish,no def record found ,birthplace Ashton-u-Lyne
married Ann Parker 1842 AUL
child;William whitworth b1843 AUL
2nd spouse
Mary Hobson nee Greensmith in 1858,AUL
Roberts father named on 2nd marriage record on Ancestry
Samuel Whitworth
But Rochdale Library say on their microfilm it says Roberts father is John Jones Whitworth

kind regards Lisaxxx

guess which years are missing in Lancs CRO!!!! even though the catalgue says they are there
1816-1820, 1842 & 1855-59
Murphy's law

there are originals I think at Manchester.Maybe it would be worth contacting them.

Thanks for looking Ann,much appreciated,im going to Manchester/Bury in June,got to goo to Manchester records office anyway regarding another line,so i'll take a look then,again thanks anyway,kind regards Lisaxxx

no problems - good luck with your searching

I AM working on it Lisa !!

I really think we have two families here but haven't sorted anything useful yet!!

Will keep at it and come back to you.

Dea x

Ann Parker married Robert Jones Whitworth Ashton &c vol20 p23

Ashton was the reg district for Middleton

the William p55 married Martha Mann

cf lancashirebmd.org.uk

see your post p4 - William was the name of their son b1843

Sorry guys,i do believe this family is sending me quite mad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Guys,its no good,im gonna get my husband to send for the marriage cert for Robert Jones Whitworth & Ann Parker,then i will know 100%,watch this space!!!!!!!!!!!!

still awaiting marriage cert,will keep you informed.kind regards Lisaxxxxx

Hi Guys,well i think this must be the lowest low i've hit since starting this tree about 2 years ago!!!!!!
Yesterday i recieved Robert Jones Whitworth & Ann Parkers marriage cert,it was my "worst case cenario"
Robert & Ann married on 24th July 1842 in Middleton Lancashire
No ages given,itjust says "of full age" so not even a clue as to his birth year!!
At the time of their marriage he was a school master,no address given,just Middleton.
And of coarse the worst news ever for me
his father was John Jones Whitworth,not Samuel,as i believed for the last 6 months!!!!!!!
His father was a "tinner"
Ann's father was John Parker,a watchmaker.
Their witnesses where James Fawley & "Nanny" Smith.
So thats it ,back to the drawing board,although at this moment in time i feel like chucking in the towel!!!!!!!
My aim for this tree was to try & trace my Whitworths back to the town,but at the moment thats looking less & less likely. kind regards a totally de-moralized Lisa xxx