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You will not be able to purchase a nmarriage certificate for Tamar because the marriage was before 1837.

Thank you everyone - sorry been offline - four children reduces time for research!! But a huge thank you. I am on the case applying for marriage cert of Tamer and think Christopher and Elizabeth went to America, eventually followed by their daughter Ann but not her family. Still ends to put together but getting there - thank you.

I have messaged Trudi and told her information left (she has opened the messages) but no response from her.

Trudi???

All my Wiseman family come from these areas.

There is a gathering of Wisemans in Kettlewell this July - I think there was one in 2007 where a good number of people arrived from all over the world.

I'll post details if anybody is interested

Gav

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1. CHRISTOPHER WISEMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Born 18 February 1813
Christening: 06 JUL 1813 Low Row-Formerley Smarber Hall-Independent, Swaledale, Yorkshire, England

2. JAMES WISEMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 19 MAY 1811 Low Row-Formerley Smarber Hall-Independent, Swaledale, Yorkshire, England

3. HENRY WISEMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 08 JUL 1822 Grinton, Yorkshire, England

4. WM. WISEMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 06 JUL 1809 Low Row-Formerley Smarber Hall-Independent, Swaledale, Yorkshire, England

5. MARY WISEMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 MAY 1807 Low Row-Formerley Smarber Hall-Independent, Swaledale, Yorkshire, England

6. ELIZTH. WISEMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 08 JUL 1822 Grinton, Yorkshire, England

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TAMER WHITE Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 15 APR 1781 Grinton, Yorkshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JAMES WHITE Family


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

P007421 1640 - 1807 0897351 IT 1 Film 0471855 Film

P007421 1640 - 1807 0897351 IT 1 Film NONE

P007421 1640 - 1807 0897351 IT 1 Film NONE

P007421 1640 - 1807 0897351 IT 1 Film NONE


Sheet: 00

Here they are in 1841 mistranscribed Wisman.
Peatgate Head, Melbecks, Yorkshire
Tamer Wisman, 55
John, 35
Thomas, 30
Henry, 25
All born in county.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about John Wiseman
Name: John Wiseman
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Year of Registration: 1877
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 71
District: Reeth
County: Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 381

Tamer 1841....no husband, but another son.

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WISMAN, Tamar F 59 1782 Yorkshire
WISMAN, John M 35 1806 Yorkshire
WISMAN, Thomas M 30 1811 Yorkshire
WISMAN, Henry M 25 1816 Yorkshire

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1246 Book/Folio:
2/41 Page:
1

Registration District:
Reeth Sub District:
Muker EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Grinton Municipal Borough:
Address:
Peatgate Head, Grinton, Melbecks County:
Yorkshire

1841 England Census
about John Wisman
Name: John Wisman
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Grinton
Hundred: West Gilling
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Reeth
Sub registration district: Muker
Neighbors:
Household Members: Name Age
Tamar Wisman 59
John Wisman 35
Thomas Wisman 30
Henry Wisman 25


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1246; Book: 2; Civil Parish: Grinton; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 41; Page: 1; Line: 2; GSU roll: 464230.


Sadly she appears to be a Widow on the 1841 census so no help there.

Ann 1841?

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WISMAN, Chrisr M 25 1816 Yorkshire
WISMAN, Elizabeth F 20 1821 Yorkshire
WISMAN, Ann F 1 1840 Yorkshire
WISMAN, Mary F 0 (4 months) 1841 Yorkshire

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1246 Book/Folio:
2/41 Page:
1

Registration District:
Reeth Sub District:
Muker EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Grinton Municipal Borough:
Address:
Peatgate Head, Grinton, Melbecks County:
Yorkshire

1861 England Census
about John Wiseman
Name: John Wiseman
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Son
Parent's Name: James
Gender: Male
Where born: North Yorkshire, Melbecks

Civil Parish: Melbecks
Ecclesiastical parish: Melbecks
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: Reeth
Sub registration district: Muker
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 167
Household Members: Name Age
James Wiseman 80 (Tamer - wrongly transcribed)
John Wiseman 55
Thomas Wiseman 52
Ann Wiseman 21




Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3672; Folio: 75; Page: 35; GSU roll: 543170.

I'm presuming Wiseman is Tamer's married name?

Possibly Ann born 1840 ish

1881 England Census
about John T. Wiseman
Name: John T. Wiseman
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Christopher
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Melbecks, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Melbecks
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Feetham Peat Gate Head
Education:

Employment status: Occupation: Lead Miner

Registration district: Reeth
Sub registration district: Muker
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Household Members: Name Age
Christopher Heslop 41
Ann Heslop 41
John T. Wiseman 17
George J. Heslop 11
Henry R. Heslop 9
Alice T. Heslop 7
William Heslop 5
Catherine Heslop 3


Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4877; Folio: 55; Page: 9; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342174.

A possible death ?


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Deaths Dec 1870 (>99%)
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Wiseman Tanya 92 Reeth 9d 355

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Reeth Registration district contains Melbecks

Edit: This record has been wrongly transcribed and does read Tamar

This website might be useful.

I checked the 1841 census on it but there was only one entry for Birds Nest...on the 1851 there are three.... Wiseman are . 103 in the listings

http://www.dalesgenealogy.com/census/framepage1.html


Haven't managed to find a maiden name for her.

Tamer Wiseman Compact Disc #143 Pin #2712733 Pedigree
Sex: F

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Event(s)

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Parents

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Mark Richardson Disc #143 Pin #2712671
Marriage: 16 Feb 1874



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Notes and Sources
Notes: None
Sources: None

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Submitter
dale GLICK
4514 wallace, monona, wi, 53716, United States of America


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My gt. gt. gt. grandmother was Tamer Wiseman b. circa 1782 at Melbecks, Yorkshire. I can only find her in the 1851 census living at Birds Nest with sons John (45yrs), Thomas (42yrs) and granddaughter Ann (11yrs). I am looking for anymore information on her, who her husband was and who Ann's parents were. I understand Ann was born out of wedlock circa 1840 but have no idea of her parents. All ideas greatly received.