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Thank you Mel and Catherine for all of your hard work,It's very much appreciated.
Best Regards
Bernie

1841 England Census
about John Smith
Name: John Smith
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Eaton
Hundred: Wenlock (Shrewsbury Liberties)
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Church Stretton
Sub registration district: Wall
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Martha Evans 18
Benjamin Smith 18
John Smith 25 1816 Tailor Lodger<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Sarah Smith 25
Thos Smith 20
Edward Edwards 2
John Cain 22
William Smith 22


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 912; Book: 21; Civil Parish: Eaton; County: Shropshire; Enumeration District: 5; Folio: 7; Page: 6


Seems they were living as lodgers to Edward Rowley Publican at a pub called Bucks Head in Hungerford. I wonder if William was his brother and Benjamin.

WILLIAM SMITH Pedigree
Male Family
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Marriages:
Spouse: SUSANNA THOMPSON Family
Marriage: 09 MAY 1814 Shifnal, Shropshire, England

JOHN SMITH Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 17 MAR 1816 Shifnal, Shropshire, England

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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM SMITH Family
Mother: SUSAN


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

If that is the wedding at least you have a middle name for John Smith. I noticed when you put Sarah Grice you put ?? after the name.

Sarah Greaves Pedigree


Birth:
Christening:
Marriage: 14 JUN 1849 , Stafford, England
Death:
Burial:



Father: Robert Greaves

If that is the wedding at least you have a middle name for John Smith. I noticed when you put Sarah Grice you put ?? after the name.

John and Sarah's wedding ??

John Tebley Smith Pedigree
Male Family
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Parents:
Father: John Smith Family
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Marriages:
Spouse: Sarah Greaves Family
Marriage: 14 JUN 1849 , Stafford, England
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

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Thanks all time for a break
regards

Checked 1851 census for age of Susannah and is definately 2yrs. so first Susannah may have died between 1841 and 1851?

The Frederick Smith in same census is a Cousin and is working as a Tailors Apprentice.

Apologies to all who feel 'put out'...
I had totally removed my tree to make ammendments to it, as I had gone up the wrong path. I have put all info on a family tree maker programme that I can hardly understand, and I am trying to make sure the information I have is correct before I make the same mistakes again. I also wanted to find the address of where Samuel Smith 1847 was born in Darlaston and the address of parents John Smith and Sarah nee Grice(?).

I have been doing this for several hours, so I am a little glazed over.

Looks like them in 1841:-
Name: John Smith
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: Darlaston
Hundred: South Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: Catherine ?

Occupation: Tailor

Registration district: Walsall
Sub registration district: Darlaston
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Smith 20
Sarah Smith 25
Susannah Smith 2
Eliza Smith 7 Mo

Bernadine,
Why ask for parentage if you already knew that his parents were John and Sarah Grice?
If you had posted all that info in the first place it would have saved a lot of time!
Next time could you give as much info as possible please!
Regards
Catherine

In that case it looks like the family that I first posted from 1851 census

The other Samuel (2 more) hace parents Samuel/Elizabeth and Thomas/Mary

Andy

Andy

Hi
Thanks all
It's definately Mary Ann Wootton, I have certificate. They did live at 39 Grove Lane.
I wanted the address of Samuel as a child when he lived with his parents John and Sarah nee Grice(?) in Darlaston, if anyone can help

Best Regards
Bernie

Here is one of those marriages from IGI with Samuel's fathers name on it if that helps at all.

Samuel Smith Pedigree
Male Family
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Parents:
Father: John Smith Family


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Marriages:
Spouse: Mary Ann Wootton Family
Marriage: 07 JUL 1872 Bilston, Stafford, England

Oh no, don't go too quickly!! Now there's a really big coincidence, second Samuel has nearly the same occupation, only one is Nut and the other Bolt Forger:-

Name: Samuel Smith
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Darlaston, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Darlaston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: 91 The Green
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Bolt Forger

Registration district: Walsall
Sub registration district: Darlaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Smith 31
Mary Ann Smith 31
George Smith 7
Sarah Smith 5
Thomas Smith 2
James Smith

Two possible marriage records and two possible 1881 records.:-

Samuel Smith Mary Ann abt 1848 Darlaston, Staffordshire, England Head Harborne, Staffordshire


Samuel Smith Mary Ann abt 1850 Darlaston, Staffordshire, England Head Darlaston, Staffordshire


The first one is the same as the one in 1871 census:-
Name: Samuel Smith
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Darlaston, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Harborne
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: No 39 Grove Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Nut Forger

Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub registration district: Harborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Smith 33
Mary Ann Smith 29 born: Darlaston, Staffordshire
Enoch Smith 8
Samuel Smith 6
John W. Smith 3

There are 2 Samuel Smiths born Darlaston in census records, both married to Mary Ann, so be careful. If you know the children that your Samuel and Mary had, try to find a birth and obtain the cert to find out Mary's maiden name

Andy

Possibly him in 1871?:-
Name: Samuel Smith
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Darlaston
Ecclesiastical parish: Darlaston
Town: Darlaston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: 128 Hampden Lane

Occupation: Bolt Forger

Registration district: Walsall
Sub registration district: Darlaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 138
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Green 68
John Green 12
Mary A Green 17
Samuel Smith 23
William Blakemore 21

Interesting to note that daughter of the house is Mary A.? May just be a coincidence of course!!

2 Possible marraige

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1872 (>99%)
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Smith Samuel Wolverhampton 6b 673
WOOTTON Mary Ann Wolverhampton 6b 673


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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1872 (>99%)
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Naylor Mary Ann Dudley 6c 178
Smith Samuel Dudley 6c 178


The correct one should confirm his fathers name and occupation

Andy