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This man was known to be in Plymouth in the 1840s as a Bootmaker he married ? and his wife produced a child named as Bernard Glanville who became a Bandsman on the HMS Royal Adelaide he married Catherine Key in 1868 they lived in Devonport and are my wifes Gt grandfather
I need to find the first Bernard O Carroll sometime Carroll estimated birth around the 1820s and his wife I have tried the 1841 and 1851 census with no luck
I want to know there last resting place as I dont have a date I cant begin the search so I am frustrated on this one
is there anyone else out there looking for this family name
Id sure like some help on this one please
Robert Bragg

So this is his marriage?

Marriages Mar 1866
Burch Thomas Stoke D. 5b 526
>>>>Carroll Bernard Stoke D 5b 526
>>>>Key Catherine Stoke D. 5b 526
Peek Elizabeth Stoke D 5b 526
Peek Richard Stoke D 5b 526

Have you got the son on any census?

Is this the son?

Births Jun 1868
O'CARROLL Bernard Glanvill Bodmin 5c 108

Is this the son's marriage?
Marriages Sep 1893
Belcher Alice Newport M 11a 333
Jones William Newport, M. 11a 333
Morgan Ann Newport, M. 11a 333
O'Carroll Bernard Glanvile Newport, M. 11a 333
O'Carroll Bernard Glanville Newport, M. 11a 333
O'Carroll Bernard Glenville Newport, M. 11a 333


So they were around Bodmin in 1871.

Deaths Jun 1872
O'CARROLL Catherine 29 Bodmin 5c 68

Bernard Glanville married Catherine Key in 1866 I have the marriage certificate and this is his entry as you state
I have not found an entry on a census
I have checked the 1851 trying to find his parents
again in 1861 still not found.
Yes the entry you quote is his birth on the Bodmin census he was born in Port Isaac which is covered by the Bodmin offices
Yes this is his marriage and I have the marriage cert for his marriage to Alice Belcher in 1893.
I want to find Bernard Glanville mother and Father they seem to have vanished
Regards
Robert Bragg

I can't find hide nor hair of them, but don't give up. Today I'm a bit tied up with family but I'll have another search tomorrow.

Ozi.

There is a site called Genogold which has a lot of parish registers online for Devon and Cornwall.
Liz

Hmmm - here's Catherine & Bernard jnr in 1871.

1871 England Census
Name: Bernerd Carroll
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Port Isaac, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Padstow
Town: Padstow
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address: Work House Hill

Occupation:

Registration district: St Columb
Sub registration district: Padstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Mitchell 57 - head
Mary A Hutchins 28 - daug, also a mariner's wife
Emma M Hutchins 2 - granddaughter
Richard Veale 29 - widowed boarder
Charles S Veale 6 - grandson
Nancy Tom 80 - widowed mother
Catherine Carroll 27 - married ; Mariner's wife, R.N.; St Endellion, Cornwall, England
Bernerd Carroll 2


Births Dec 1866 [Bernard Philip Key Carroll, perhaps]
Carroll Bernard P K Stoke D. 5b 339

Deaths Mar 1867
Carroll Bernard Philip K 0 Stoke D. 5b 279

Look's like Bernard snr must have married again.

1881 England Census
Name: Burnard Carroll
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: Port Isaac, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: East Stonehouse
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: 4 Barrack Place

Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: East Stonehouse
Sub registration district: East Stonehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Lucy Carroll 27
Burnard Carroll 13
Rupert Carroll 5
Cecil Carroll 1



So Bernard snr might be a William.

Marriages Mar 1874
Cambers Emily Plymouth 5b 424
CARROLL William Bernard Plymouth 5b 424
Cloff Lucy Plymouth 5b 424
James Samuel Henry Plymouth 5b 424


Births Sep 1876
CARROLL Rupert Plymouth 5b 256


Births Mar 1878 ????
Carroll Lucy E.Stonehouse 5b 3__

Deaths Sep 1878 ????
Carroll Lucy 0 East Stonehouse 5b 194


Births Jun 1879
Carroll Cecil E.Stonehouse 5b 311

This bloke is an apprentice cordwainer.

1841 England Census
Name: William Carroll
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: St Andrew
Hundred: Roborough
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address: 38 High Street

Occupation: apprentice cordwainer

Registration district: Plymouth
Sub registration district: St Andrew
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Marren 38
Harriet Marren 39
William Carroll 12
William Keate 11
John Witney 24

A Cordwainer is a boot and shoe maker

Seems he was born Ireland.

Married an Elizabeth?

1861 England Census
about William Carroll
Name: William Carroll
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Dublin, Ireland

Civil Parish: East Stonehouse
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address: 40 Dumford St, East Stonehouse Devon

Occupation:SCRIPTURES READER NAVAL MASTER


Registration district: East Stonehouse
Sub registration district: East Stonehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 88
Household Members: Name Age
William Carroll 33 BORN IRELAND
Elizabeth Carroll 25 Cork Ireland

I don't believe this can be a connection, but just in case.


1901 England Census
Name: Lucy Carill
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Patient
Gender: Female
Where born: Tongnay, Devon, England [Torquay on image]
Civil Parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Chelsea
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: married

Registration district: Chelsea
Sub registration district: Chelsea, North
ED, institution, or vessel: Hospital for Consumption and Diseases of the Chest South Wing

1871 England Census
about Bernard Carroll
Name: Bernard Carroll
Age: 78
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1793
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Ross, Ireland
Civil Parish: Walsall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Walsall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Walsall
Sub registration district: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 119
Household Members: Name Age
Bernard Carroll 78 Rosscommon Ireland
Elizabeth Carroll 36 " "
Maria Carroll 15 1856 Walsall, Staffordshire
Charles Farrell 30

Have you found Catherine Key before her marriage?

I have Catherine Keys birth certificate born to Philip Key and Ann Brown he was a carpenter she was born in Port Isaac in Cornwall on Sept 1st 1842
I am aware of a coastguard situation with this family I think Philip may have been part of the coastguard operation on the north coast of Cornwall
TOUGH Life
Regards
Robert Bragg

.......... and was ANY of the above information helpful?

1861 England Census
Name: C B Key
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Phillip
Gender: Female
Where born: Port Isaac, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: St Endellion
Town: Port Isaac
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Bodmin
Sub registration district: Egloshayle
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 163
Household Members:
Name Age
Phillip Key 54 - widowed carpenter; Endellion
Ellon Smith 25 - daughter; sailor's wife; Port Isaac
C B Key 18
William Smith 3 - grandson; Port Isaac

1851 England Census
Name: Catharine Very [image is a very florid Key]
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Phillip
Mother's Name: Nancy
Gender: Female
Where born: Endellion, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Endellion
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Bodmin
Sub registration district: Lanlivery
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 163
Household Members:
Name Age
Phillip Very 44
Nancy Very 43
Ann Very 18
Glanbile Very 13
Phillip Very 11
Catharine Very 9
Howell Very 5 [Honor R, daughter on image]

All born Endellion.

Marriages Sep 1876
Galloway James John Holborn 1b 1156
KEY Honor Rebecca T T Holborn 1b 1156
Pontin John Holborn 1b 1156
Reynolds Sarah Holborn 1b 1156

1881:
Honor Galloway James J. abt 1845 Port Isaac ?, Cornwall, England Wife St Pancras, London

My thanks to the persons OZIBIRD and Elizabeth for all your help in this request I now have all the info I was looking for so much so I have sent for Catherines death Cert and uncovered a rather old letter to Aunt Lucy from my father in laws old paperwork who I now can say for certain was Bernards second wife.
You folks are just great
Many thanks once again
Robert Bragg