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Births Dec 1879 (>99%)
Hibberd Sidney James St. Saviour 1d 105

It would be interesting to know what it says about his father...............

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IGI Individual Record
EDMUND NORRIS
Christening: 29 JUN 1827 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England
Parents:
Father: JAMES EDMUND NORRIS
Mother: ELIZABETH
Source Information:
Batch No.: C055762 Dates: 1813 - 1816, 1816 - 1826, 1826 - 1832

IGI Individual Record
MARY SABINE NORRIS
Birth: 19 DEC 1823
Christening: 27 FEB 1824 Saint Mary, Newington, Surrey, England
Parents:
Father: JAMES EDMUND NORRIS
Mother: ELIZABETH

Source Information:
Batch No.: C055631 Dates: 1813 - 1815, 1816 - 1818, 1819 - 1821, 1822 - 1824

This is hopeful.

1841 England Census
Name: Maria Norriss
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Where born: Surrey, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Newington
Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address: Portland St

Occupation:


Registration district: St Mary Newington
Sub registration district: St Peters
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
James Norriss 45 - clerk; not born in county
Eliza Norriss 45
Eliza Norriss 15
Mary Norriss 15
Edmond Norriss 14 - not born in county
Maria Norriss 2
Harriet Chadband 55 - independent; not born in county

A connection!

1861 England Census a
Name: George J W Rogers
Age: 1 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Maria H A
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Newington St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Walworth St Peter
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address: 3 Townley St

Occupation: journeyman printer

Registration district: Newington
Sub registration district: St Peter Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 49
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 285
Household Members:
Name Age
George Rogers 21
Maria H A Rogers 22 - Lambeth
George J W Rogers 1 Mo
Elizabeth Norris 68 - mother-in-law



Marriages Jun 1860
EDNEY George William Lambeth 1d 411
GLADMAN Elizabeth Lambeth 1d 411
>>>>NORRIS Maria Harriet Ann Lambeth 1d 411
>>>>ROGERS George Lambeth 1d 411

1. Edmund & Edward are often muddled in transcription.
2. I can't find any Edward.
3. Hawker & traveller are interchangable as occupations.
4. Right age for Nora.
5. Right district.

However it's all guesswork without proof.

????
Births Dec 1862
NORRIS Edward James Newington 1d 204


Births Jun 1863
NORRIS Edmund William James Newington 1d 217

I just wonder. The Rogers obviously know his surname.

1871 England Census
Name: Edm Norris
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Orphan
Gender: Male
Where born: Walworth, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St John Walworth
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 6 Bedford St

Occupation: scholar

Condition as to marriage:


Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district: Trinity Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 136
Household Members:
Name Age
Geo Rogers 32 - hawker
Nora Rogers 31
Geo Rogers 10
Maria Rogers 5
William Rogers 2
Edm Norris 8

Hi Ozbird, what makes you think this could be Nora as the fathers names are different on the wedding certificate her father is Edward Norris.

1881 England Census
Name: Edmund Norris
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Prisoner
Gender: Male
Where born: Walworth, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Clerkenwell
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: "Her Majestys Prison" Clerkenwell London
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Fishmonger
Registration district: Holborn
Sub registration district: St James Clerkenwell
ED, institution, or vessel: Her Majestys Prison Clerkenwell London

Marriages Jun 1883
HELLYER Jane Ann St. Saviour 1d 213
Hillyer Jane Ann St Saviour 1d 213
>>>>McMARNE Margaret St Saviour 1d 213
>>>>NORRIS Edmund St. Saviour 1d 213
WHITE William Thomas St.Saviour 1d 213

I wonder if this is her?

1901 England Census
Name: Norah Norris
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edmund
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Female
Where born: Bloomsbury, London, England
Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 12 Lisdale Place

Occupation: Employee at _______ Jam factory

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district: St Peter, Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 295
Household Members:
Name Age
Edmund Norris 38 - hawker; Walworth
Margaret Norris 35 - Wolverhampton, Staffs
Norah Norris 18
Edmund Norris 9 - Newington
James Norris 5 Newington

Sidney's father was Hibberd, he was a gas fitter and Nora father was a traveller, sorry for my typing error.
Sidney was 22 when he married and Nora was 19.

So..........what is the correct surname for Sidney?

Is it HibberD..............or HibberT?

Is his father's name on the marriage cert?

I now have the marriage certificate of Sidney James hibbert and Nora Norris it tell me that Nora was 19 and her father was Edward Norris I could do with some more help to try to find her parents have had a look on BMD and can't find her birth. its the London area.

Looby

Thanks to everyone who helped, I have sent for the marriage certificate won't come before christmas now. It looks like the right family.

Looby

There are 6 Hibberd children with MMN Norris.
Mary N., 1913
William H., 1915
Lilian M., 1918
Leonard, 1920
Albert, 1923
Norah, 1925
All in Lamberth.
Before that MMN wasn't given.

Not sure about the census info I have tried to ring her but no answer will try again tomorrow, thanks to everyone for all your help.

Looby

Is this your friend?
Norah Hibberd born Mar. Q 1925, Lambeth, mother's maiden name Norris. (1d 448)

Sidney James Hibberd married Norah Norris, June Q 1903, Southwark. (1d 60)

So what about the census info? Any use? Or not..........................

If this person knows so little about the man, the best advice would be to obtain the marriage cert...........at least then there would be some facts to work on.