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Looby

Looby Report 15 Dec 2008 17:30

I have looked on the 1881 census but could not find Sidney James Hibberd born in 1879 St Saviours Southwark London he married Norah Norris please could you try and find him with his parents and family.
thanks you Looby

Sam

Sam Report 15 Dec 2008 17:36

Do you have his fathers name from his marriage certificate? DO you have him on any other census?

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 15 Dec 2008 17:36

What about this one in 1891?

Name: Sidney Hibberd
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Marian
Gender: Male
Where born: Walworth, London, England

Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: London City
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district: St Peter Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 17a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Hibberd 40
Marian Hibberd 43
Peter Hibberd 19
William Hibberd 13
Sidney Hibberd 11
Marian Hibberd 8
Alice Hibberd 4
Mary Ann Terry 58

Sam

Sam Report 15 Dec 2008 17:37

Is this him in 1901? In prison.... which doesn't help me find him in 1881!!

Name: Sidney James Hibberd
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Walworth, London, England

Civil Parish: St Faith Within
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Winchester
Sub registration district: Winchester
ED, institution, or vessel: The Majestys Prison

Looby

Looby Report 15 Dec 2008 17:45

I have not seen his marriage certificate this is a friends family, Sidney and Norah were her parents she is 83 and dose not know much about her family.
I don't think there are many still alive as she is the youngest, her sister told her that her mother had 10 children that's about it.

Looby

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 15 Dec 2008 17:54

So what about the census info? Any use? Or not..........................

If this person knows so little about the man, the best advice would be to obtain the marriage cert...........at least then there would be some facts to work on.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 15 Dec 2008 18:01

Sidney James Hibberd married Norah Norris, June Q 1903, Southwark. (1d 60)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 15 Dec 2008 18:04

Is this your friend?
Norah Hibberd born Mar. Q 1925, Lambeth, mother's maiden name Norris. (1d 448)

Looby

Looby Report 15 Dec 2008 18:04

Not sure about the census info I have tried to ring her but no answer will try again tomorrow, thanks to everyone for all your help.

Looby

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 15 Dec 2008 18:08

There are 6 Hibberd children with MMN Norris.
Mary N., 1913
William H., 1915
Lilian M., 1918
Leonard, 1920
Albert, 1923
Norah, 1925
All in Lamberth.
Before that MMN wasn't given.

Looby

Looby Report 17 Dec 2008 22:33

Thanks to everyone who helped, I have sent for the marriage certificate won't come before christmas now. It looks like the right family.

Looby

Looby

Looby Report 20 Dec 2008 23:51

I now have the marriage certificate of Sidney James hibbert and Nora Norris it tell me that Nora was 19 and her father was Edward Norris I could do with some more help to try to find her parents have had a look on BMD and can't find her birth. its the London area.

Looby

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 21 Dec 2008 11:44

So..........what is the correct surname for Sidney?

Is it HibberD..............or HibberT?

Is his father's name on the marriage cert?

Looby

Looby Report 21 Dec 2008 19:06

Sidney's father was Hibberd, he was a gas fitter and Nora father was a traveller, sorry for my typing error.
Sidney was 22 when he married and Nora was 19.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 21 Dec 2008 19:16

I wonder if this is her?

1901 England Census
Name: Norah Norris
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edmund
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Female
Where born: Bloomsbury, London, England
Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 12 Lisdale Place

Occupation: Employee at _______ Jam factory

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district: St Peter, Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 295
Household Members:
Name Age
Edmund Norris 38 - hawker; Walworth
Margaret Norris 35 - Wolverhampton, Staffs
Norah Norris 18
Edmund Norris 9 - Newington
James Norris 5 Newington

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 21 Dec 2008 19:22

Marriages Jun 1883
HELLYER Jane Ann St. Saviour 1d 213
Hillyer Jane Ann St Saviour 1d 213
>>>>McMARNE Margaret St Saviour 1d 213
>>>>NORRIS Edmund St. Saviour 1d 213
WHITE William Thomas St.Saviour 1d 213

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 21 Dec 2008 20:07

1881 England Census
Name: Edmund Norris
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Prisoner
Gender: Male
Where born: Walworth, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Clerkenwell
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: "Her Majestys Prison" Clerkenwell London
Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Occupation: Fishmonger
Registration district: Holborn
Sub registration district: St James Clerkenwell
ED, institution, or vessel: Her Majestys Prison Clerkenwell London

Looby

Looby Report 21 Dec 2008 20:09

Hi Ozbird, what makes you think this could be Nora as the fathers names are different on the wedding certificate her father is Edward Norris.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 21 Dec 2008 20:10

1871 England Census
Name: Edm Norris
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Orphan
Gender: Male
Where born: Walworth, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St John Walworth
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 6 Bedford St

Occupation: scholar

Condition as to marriage:


Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district: Trinity Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 136
Household Members:
Name Age
Geo Rogers 32 - hawker
Nora Rogers 31
Geo Rogers 10
Maria Rogers 5
William Rogers 2
Edm Norris 8

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 21 Dec 2008 20:14

????
Births Dec 1862
NORRIS Edward James Newington 1d 204


Births Jun 1863
NORRIS Edmund William James Newington 1d 217

I just wonder. The Rogers obviously know his surname.