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14 Nov 2008 09:07 |
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I have been up ages and spent the time looking for James Malcher b. abt 1856 in Ashton, Northamptonshire. I have him on 1901 and 1891 census as follows: 1901 James Malcher 46 Farmer own account Annie M wife 48 Dennis E son 21 Fedk C son 17 Edith A dau 14 Miriam dau 12 Ernest W son 8 Herbert J son 6 Gertrude M dau 3
1891 James Malcher 35 Annie wife 37 Dennis son 11 Charles son 7 Edith dau 4 Miriam dau 2
I have searched and searched and nowhere can I find James & family on 1881 census or 1871 census. One of the above census returns had the family as MalSHer instead of MalCHer so I tried that combination too but no luck.
Has anybody got any suggestions for another name combination or could anyone offer help? Until I find James at home living with parents, I have no chance of getting further back. Thanks a lot.
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KathleenBell
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14 Nov 2008 09:17 |
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Is this them in 1881:-
Name: Dennis Melcher Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Annie Gender: Male Where born: Ashton, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Ashton in Potterspury County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address: Cottage Education:
Employment status:
View Image Registration district: Potterspury Sub registration district: Potterspury ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Annie Melcher 28 Dennis Melcher 1 Florence Melcher 4 James Melcher 28
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1537; Folio: 18; Page: 17; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341370.
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Alison
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14 Nov 2008 09:18 |
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Hello Is this him in 1871?
Name: James Melcher Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Assistant Gender: Male Where born: Ntonre, Ashton Civil Parish: All Saints Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Northampton Sub registration district: All Saints ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 118 Household Members: Name Age John Abbott 22 John Chapman 45 Frank Chouler 15 Ann Coleman 20 Alfred Cooper 26 Sarah Dobner 22 Frederick Dorman 18 Herbert Fox 20 Frederick J Gibson 28 Edwin E Hanis 21 William D Hodges 24 Elizabeth James 14 James Melcher 16 John Neson 20 Isaac Oram 17 Edward Peugh 27 Edward Phipps 36 Caroline Pilley 44 Frederick Smoosby 33 Charles Williams 29 James S Williams 21 Maria S Williams 57 Sarah Williams 25 Thomas Williams 58 Alison
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14 Nov 2008 09:19 |
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Name: James Malcher Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Year of Registration: 1914 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 59 District: Potterspury County: Buckinghamshire, Northamptonshire Volume: 3b Page: 32 (click to see others on page)
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14 Nov 2008 09:20 |
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1861 England Census about James Molchor Name: James Molchor Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Son Father's Name: Daniel Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Ashton, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Ashton County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Potterspury Sub registration district: Potterspury ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 84 Household Members: Name Age Caroline Molchor 8 Daniel Molchor 48 Elizabeth A Molchor 14 Frederic Molchor 1 Henry Molchor 13 James Molchor 6 Jane Molchor 3 Mary A Molchor 41
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KathleenBell
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14 Nov 2008 09:21 |
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This looks like James in 1871 but unfortunately not with parents:-
Name: James Melcher Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Assistant Gender: Male Where born: Ntonre, Ashton Civil Parish: All Saints Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: Baker's assistant
Condition as to marriage: single
Disability:
View Image Registration district: Northampton Sub registration district: All Saints ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 118 Household Members: Name Age John Abbott 22 John Chapman 45 Frank Chouler 15 Ann Coleman 20 Alfred Cooper 26 Sarah Dobner 22 Frederick Dorman 18 Herbert Fox 20 Frederick J Gibson 28 Edwin E Hanis 21 William D Hodges 24 Elizabeth James 14 James Melcher 16 John Neson 20 Isaac Oram 17 Edward Peugh 27 Edward Phipps 36 Caroline Pilley 44 Frederick Smoosby 33 Charles Williams 29 James S Williams 21 Maria S Williams 57 Sarah Williams 25 Thomas Williams 58
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1487; Folio: 20; Page: 33; GSU roll: 828795
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Alison
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14 Nov 2008 09:21 |
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And 1861 with his parents?
Name: James Molchor Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Son Father's Name: Daniel Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Ashton, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Ashton County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Potterspury Sub registration district: Potterspury ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 84 Household Members: Name Age Caroline Molchor 8 Daniel Molchor 48 Elizabeth A Molchor 14 Frederic Molchor 1 Henry Molchor 13 James Molchor 6 Jane Molchor 3 Mary A Molchor Alison
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***Michelle***
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14 Nov 2008 09:22 |
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Here is his parents
1861 England Census about Daniel Molchor Name: Daniel Molchor Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Ashton, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Ashton County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Potterspury Sub registration district: Potterspury ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 84 Household Members: Name Age Caroline Molchor 8 Daniel Molchor 48 Elizabeth A Molchor 14 Frederic Molchor 1 Henry Molchor 13 James Molchor 6 Jane Molchor 3 Mary A Molchor 41
1861 England Census about Mary A Molchor Name: Mary A Molchor Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Daniel Gender: Female Where born: Ashton, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Ashton County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Potterspury Sub registration district: Potterspury ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 84 Household Members: Name Age Caroline Molchor 8 Daniel Molchor 48 Elizabeth A Molchor 14 Frederic Molchor 1 Henry Molchor 13 James Molchor 6 Jane Molchor 3 Mary A Molchor 41
Census image the o looks like an a so pretty sure its James and his family.
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14 Nov 2008 09:22 |
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Name: James Molchor Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Son Father's Name: Daniel Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Ashton, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Ashton County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Potterspury Sub registration district: Potterspury ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 84 Household Members: Name Age Caroline Molchor 8 Daniel Molchor 48 Elizabeth A Molchor 14 Frederic Molchor 1 Henry Molchor 13 James Molchor 6 Jane Molchor 3 Mary A Molchor 41 View Original Record
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Margaret
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14 Nov 2008 09:24 |
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I've just quickly scrolled down these replies and I just don't understand how you do it so well ! I could not find the info on Ancestry and when I inputted the names etc on the front page of genes censuses, all I got was 'no name found'. I will now make a note of your information and I really am grateful to you all, I was just about tearing my hair out.
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Battenburg
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14 Nov 2008 09:26 |
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try James no surname 1856 - or +5 Northampton Sometimes adding too much info will bring no results if there is a mistranscription
1881 census. James Melcher 1853 Ashton Northampton occ baker Annie wife 1853 Banbury Oxford. Florence 1877 Farnbrough Warwick. Dennis 1880 Ashton
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Alison
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14 Nov 2008 09:27 |
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And here's the baptism records for 3 of his children from Freereg:
County Northants Place Ashton Church St Michael & All Angels RegisterNumber 677 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 29 May 1887 Forename Edith Annie Sex - FatherForename James MotherForename Annie FatherSurname MALCHER MotherSurname Abode Ashton FatherOccupation Baker Notes FileNumber 29
County Northants Place Ashton Church St Michael & All Angels RegisterNumber 650 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 21 Oct 1883 Forename Frederic Charles Sex - FatherForename James MotherForename Annie Maria FatherSurname MALCHER MotherSurname Abode Ashton FatherOccupation Baker Notes
County Northants Place Ashton Church St Michael & All Angels RegisterNumber 693 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 21 Apr 1889 Forename Miriam Sex - FatherForename James MotherForename Annie FatherSurname MALCHER MotherSurname Abode Ashton FatherOccupation Baker Notes FileNumber 29
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KathleenBell
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14 Nov 2008 09:28 |
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His parent's in 1851 before he was born:-
Name: Daniel Molcher Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Ashton, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Ashton County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View Image Registration district: Potterspury Sub registration district: Potterspury ED, institution, or vessel: 14a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 66 Household Members: Name Age Daniel Molcher 40 Daniel Molcher 9 Eli Molcher 8 Mo Elizabeth Ann Molcher 4 Henry Molcher 3 James Molcher 6 Mary Ann Molcher 31
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1737; Folio: 333; Page: 17; GSU roll: 87692.
All the family born Ashton, Northamptonshire.
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Alison
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14 Nov 2008 09:30 |
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And here's his burial for you as well!!! Parish Records Collection - burial
First name(s): James Last name: MALCHER Date of burial: 25 Mar 1914 Age at death: 59 Calculated year of birth: 1855 Place of burial: Ashton Dedication: St Michael & All Angels County: Northamptonshire Notes:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ashton St Michael & All Angels: Denomination: Anglican Coverage: 1813 - 1944 Number of entries: 805
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Record source: National Burial Index Data provider: Northamptonshire Family History Society
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KathleenBell
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14 Nov 2008 09:33 |
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Daniel and Mary Ann in the 1841 census:-
Name: Daniel Molcher Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Male Where born: Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Ashton Hundred: Cleley County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England
Street address: High Street
Occupation: Agricultural Labourer
View Image Registration district: Potterspury Sub registration district: Potterspury Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Daniel Molcher 30 Mary Ann Molcher 20
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 796; Book: 2; Civil Parish: Ashton; County: Northamptonshire; Enumeration District: 2; Folio: 10; Page: 14; Line: 5; GSU roll: 438873.
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Margaret
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14 Nov 2008 09:40 |
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Hi everyone - this really is fantastic and I thank you all. Looking at 1851 and 1861 census - both have a James age 6, so I am presuming that the first James died sometime after 1851 another James was born.
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Margaret
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14 Nov 2008 09:50 |
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Great - have just found the first James' death reg. Sept Qtr 1851. That's that problem solved.
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