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Why oh why can I never find someone...............

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Margaret

Margaret Report 14 Nov 2008 09:50

Great - have just found the first James' death reg. Sept Qtr 1851. That's that problem solved.

Margaret

Margaret Report 14 Nov 2008 09:40

Hi everyone - this really is fantastic and I thank you all. Looking at 1851 and 1861 census - both have a James age 6, so I am presuming that the first James died sometime after 1851 another James was born.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 14 Nov 2008 09:33

Daniel and Mary Ann in the 1841 census:-

Name: Daniel Molcher
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Ashton
Hundred: Cleley
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address: High Street

Occupation: Agricultural Labourer

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Registration district: Potterspury
Sub registration district: Potterspury
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Molcher 30
Mary Ann Molcher 20

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 796; Book: 2; Civil Parish: Ashton; County: Northamptonshire; Enumeration District: 2; Folio: 10; Page: 14; Line: 5; GSU roll: 438873.

Kath. x

Alison

Alison Report 14 Nov 2008 09:30


And here's his burial for you as well!!!

Parish Records Collection - burial

First name(s): James

Last name: MALCHER

Date of burial: 25 Mar 1914

Age at death: 59

Calculated year of birth: 1855

Place of burial: Ashton

Dedication: St Michael & All Angels

County: Northamptonshire

Notes:

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Ashton St Michael & All Angels:

Denomination: Anglican

Coverage: 1813 - 1944

Number of entries: 805

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Record source: National Burial Index

Data provider: Northamptonshire Family History Society

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 14 Nov 2008 09:28

His parent's in 1851 before he was born:-

Name: Daniel Molcher
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashton, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Ashton
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Potterspury
Sub registration district: Potterspury
ED, institution, or vessel: 14a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 66
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Molcher 40
Daniel Molcher 9
Eli Molcher 8 Mo
Elizabeth Ann Molcher 4
Henry Molcher 3
James Molcher 6
Mary Ann Molcher 31

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1737; Folio: 333; Page: 17; GSU roll: 87692.

All the family born Ashton, Northamptonshire.

Kath. x

Alison

Alison Report 14 Nov 2008 09:27

And here's the baptism records for 3 of his children from Freereg:

County Northants
Place Ashton
Church St Michael & All Angels
RegisterNumber 677
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 29 May 1887
Forename Edith Annie
Sex -
FatherForename James
MotherForename Annie
FatherSurname MALCHER
MotherSurname
Abode Ashton
FatherOccupation Baker
Notes
FileNumber 29


County Northants
Place Ashton
Church St Michael & All Angels
RegisterNumber 650
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 21 Oct 1883
Forename Frederic Charles
Sex -
FatherForename James
MotherForename Annie Maria
FatherSurname MALCHER
MotherSurname
Abode Ashton
FatherOccupation Baker
Notes


County Northants
Place Ashton
Church St Michael & All Angels
RegisterNumber 693
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 21 Apr 1889
Forename Miriam
Sex -
FatherForename James
MotherForename Annie
FatherSurname MALCHER
MotherSurname
Abode Ashton
FatherOccupation Baker
Notes
FileNumber 29


Alison

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 14 Nov 2008 09:26

try James no surname 1856 - or +5 Northampton
Sometimes adding too much info will bring no results if there is a mistranscription

1881 census.
James Melcher 1853 Ashton Northampton occ baker
Annie wife 1853 Banbury Oxford.
Florence 1877 Farnbrough Warwick.
Dennis 1880 Ashton

Margaret

Margaret Report 14 Nov 2008 09:24

I've just quickly scrolled down these replies and I just don't understand how you do it so well ! I could not find the info on Ancestry and when I inputted the names etc on the front page of genes censuses, all I got was 'no name found'. I will now make a note of your information and I really am grateful to you all, I was just about tearing my hair out.

liquidamber¨°o.O

liquidamber¨°o.O Report 14 Nov 2008 09:22

Name: James Molchor
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Daniel
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashton, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Potterspury
Sub registration district: Potterspury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 84
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Molchor 8
Daniel Molchor 48
Elizabeth A Molchor 14
Frederic Molchor 1
Henry Molchor 13
James Molchor 6
Jane Molchor 3
Mary A Molchor 41


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***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 14 Nov 2008 09:22

Here is his parents

1861 England Census
about Daniel Molchor
Name: Daniel Molchor
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashton, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Potterspury
Sub registration district: Potterspury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 84
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Molchor 8
Daniel Molchor 48
Elizabeth A Molchor 14
Frederic Molchor 1
Henry Molchor 13
James Molchor 6
Jane Molchor 3
Mary A Molchor 41

1861 England Census
about Mary A Molchor
Name: Mary A Molchor
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Daniel
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Potterspury
Sub registration district: Potterspury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 84
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Molchor 8
Daniel Molchor 48
Elizabeth A Molchor 14
Frederic Molchor 1
Henry Molchor 13
James Molchor 6
Jane Molchor 3
Mary A Molchor 41

Census image the o looks like an a so pretty sure its James and his family.







Alison

Alison Report 14 Nov 2008 09:21

And 1861 with his parents?

Name: James Molchor
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Daniel
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashton, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Potterspury
Sub registration district: Potterspury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 84
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Molchor 8
Daniel Molchor 48
Elizabeth A Molchor 14
Frederic Molchor 1
Henry Molchor 13
James Molchor 6
Jane Molchor 3
Mary A Molchor

Alison

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 14 Nov 2008 09:21

This looks like James in 1871 but unfortunately not with parents:-

Name: James Melcher
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Assistant
Gender: Male
Where born: Ntonre, Ashton
Civil Parish: All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: Baker's assistant

Condition as to marriage: single

Disability:

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Registration district: Northampton
Sub registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 118
Household Members:
Name Age
John Abbott 22
John Chapman 45
Frank Chouler 15
Ann Coleman 20
Alfred Cooper 26
Sarah Dobner 22
Frederick Dorman 18
Herbert Fox 20
Frederick J Gibson 28
Edwin E Hanis 21
William D Hodges 24
Elizabeth James 14
James Melcher 16
John Neson 20
Isaac Oram 17
Edward Peugh 27
Edward Phipps 36
Caroline Pilley 44
Frederick Smoosby 33
Charles Williams 29
James S Williams 21
Maria S Williams 57
Sarah Williams 25
Thomas Williams 58

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1487; Folio: 20; Page: 33; GSU roll: 828795

Kath. x

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 14 Nov 2008 09:20

1861 England Census
about James Molchor
Name: James Molchor
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Daniel
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashton, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Potterspury
Sub registration district: Potterspury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 84
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Molchor 8
Daniel Molchor 48
Elizabeth A Molchor 14
Frederic Molchor 1
Henry Molchor 13
James Molchor 6
Jane Molchor 3
Mary A Molchor 41


liquidamber¨°o.O

liquidamber¨°o.O Report 14 Nov 2008 09:19

Name: James Malcher
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 59
District: Potterspury
County: Buckinghamshire, Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 32 (click to see others on page)


Alison

Alison Report 14 Nov 2008 09:18

Hello
Is this him in 1871?

Name: James Melcher
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Assistant
Gender: Male
Where born: Ntonre, Ashton
Civil Parish: All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Northampton
Sub registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 118
Household Members: Name Age
John Abbott 22
John Chapman 45
Frank Chouler 15
Ann Coleman 20
Alfred Cooper 26
Sarah Dobner 22
Frederick Dorman 18
Herbert Fox 20
Frederick J Gibson 28
Edwin E Hanis 21
William D Hodges 24
Elizabeth James 14
James Melcher 16
John Neson 20
Isaac Oram 17
Edward Peugh 27
Edward Phipps 36
Caroline Pilley 44
Frederick Smoosby 33
Charles Williams 29
James S Williams 21
Maria S Williams 57
Sarah Williams 25
Thomas Williams 58

Alison

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 14 Nov 2008 09:17

Is this them in 1881:-

Name: Dennis Melcher
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashton, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Ashton in Potterspury
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address: Cottage
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Potterspury
Sub registration district: Potterspury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Annie Melcher 28
Dennis Melcher 1
Florence Melcher 4
James Melcher 28

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1537; Folio: 18; Page: 17; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341370.

Kath. x

Margaret

Margaret Report 14 Nov 2008 09:07

I have been up ages and spent the time looking for James Malcher b. abt 1856 in Ashton, Northamptonshire. I have him on 1901 and 1891 census as follows:
1901
James Malcher 46 Farmer own account
Annie M wife 48
Dennis E son 21
Fedk C son 17
Edith A dau 14
Miriam dau 12
Ernest W son 8
Herbert J son 6
Gertrude M dau 3

1891
James Malcher 35
Annie wife 37
Dennis son 11
Charles son 7
Edith dau 4
Miriam dau 2

I have searched and searched and nowhere can I find James & family on 1881 census or 1871 census. One of the above census returns had the family as MalSHer instead of MalCHer so I tried that combination too but no luck.

Has anybody got any suggestions for another name combination or could anyone offer help? Until I find James at home living with parents, I have no chance of getting further back. Thanks a lot.