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Paul
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11 Oct 2008 20:25 |
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Hi all,
My Great grandmother was born Elizabeth Thompson Alderslade in 1886, to parents George Alderslade and (what looks like) Ann Alderslade (formerly Thompson).
Elizabeth is listed in te 1891 census as an adopted Daughter under the name Elizabeth Featonby, and in the 1991 census under the name Elizabeth Featonby Alderslade. I have Elizabeths marriage to John Thomas Alexander.
The trouble I have is that I cannot locate her parents marriage, or the mothers death.
This is driving me up the wall now.
All help greatfully appreciated.
Paul
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AnnCardiff
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11 Oct 2008 20:35 |
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location in the UK?
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Paul
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11 Oct 2008 20:45 |
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Apologies, she was born in Castle Eden near Hartlepool
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Oct 2008 20:49 |
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For ref;
1891 England Census about Elizabeth Featonby Name: Elizabeth Featonby Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Relation: Adopted Daughter Gender: Female Where born: Castle E Colliery, Durham, England Civil Parish: Monk Hesledon Ecclesiastical parish: St Johns Town: Castle Eden Colliery County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Easington Sub registration district: Easington ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alice Featonby 49 Annie Featonby 24 Elizabeth Featonby 4 George Featonby 15 Thomas Featonby 48
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Oct 2008 20:52 |
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1901 England Census about Elizabeth Alderslade Name: Elizabeth Alderslade Age: 14 w Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900 Relation: Adopted Child Gender: Female Where born: Castle Eden, Durham, England Civil Parish: Hebburn Ecclesiastical parish: Hebburn St John County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: South Shields Sub registration district: Jarrow ED, institution, or vessel: 43 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 184 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Alderslade 14 w Alice Featonby 59 Ann Featonby 34 George Featonby 25 Image states "w" very faint next to the age of 14
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Oct 2008 20:53 |
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1886 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alderslade Elizabeth T Easington 10a 424
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Oct 2008 20:56 |
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Could this be George??
1881 England Census about George Alderslade Name: George Alderslade Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Castle Eden, Durham, England Civil Parish: Monk Hesleden County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address: 342 Station Terr Condition as to marriage: Widow Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Platelayer Registration district: Easington Sub registration district: Easington ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George Alderslade 27 Frances Armstrong 4 John J. Armstrong 35 John J. Armstrong 8 Margaret Armstrong 28 Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Oct 2008 21:03 |
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This looks very interesting, is this the same Armstrong family that George was lodging with??
1891 England Census about John Thos Alderslade Name: John Thos Alderslade Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Adopted Son Gender: Male Where born: Castle E Colly, Durham, England Civil Parish: Monk Hesledon Ecclesiastical parish: St Johns Town: Castle Eden Colliery County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Easington Sub registration district: Easington ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Thos Alderslade 13 Joseph Alderslade 8 Elizabeth Armstrong 6 Frances Armstrong 14 John Jos Armstrong 45 Joseph Armstrong 9 Margaret Armstrong 40 William Armstrong 3 William Steadman 54
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Oct 2008 21:09 |
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The Armstrong family IS connected to the Alderslade's;
1901 England Census about Joseph Alderslade Name: Joseph Alderslade Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Castle Eden, Durham, England Civil Parish: Chopwell Ecclesiastical parish: Winlaton St Paul County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Gateshead Sub registration district: Winlaton ED, institution, or vessel: 13a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 493 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Alderslade 18 Elizabeth Armstrong 16 John Joseph Armstrong 55 Joseph Armstrong 19 Margaret Armstrong 50 William Armstrong 14 John Smith 2
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BoroLass
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11 Oct 2008 21:11 |
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May be another co-incidence. There's a Steadman on that last census return
Search marriages - results for spouse of GEORGE ALDERSLADE
1 1882 ALDERSLADE GEORGE H-502-3-0-187 Hartlepool 2 1882 STEDMAN SARAH H-502-3-0-187 Hartlepool
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Oct 2008 21:15 |
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This ones like a grapevine, lol.
Elizabeths middle name was Thompson, what if the mother died in child birth, without being married and George named the child and placed her in the care of a family????
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Oct 2008 21:19 |
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Thinking about we are all presuming Elizabeths mother died, what if she didn't???
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Oct 2008 21:37 |
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If you have Elizabeths birth cert, what was her fathers occupation???
these are the other Alderslade births we found on the censuses;
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1883 (>99%) -- ALDERSLADE Joseph Easington 10a 450
Births Dec 1867 (>99%) -- Alderslade Edward Easington 10a 352
Births Dec 1877 (>99%) -- Alderslade John Thomas Lanchester 10a 354
It may be worth seeing if they have the same mother and father, unfortunately the only way of knowing that is, is if you order them.
Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Oct 2008 21:44 |
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I also found these;
Births Dec 1888 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ALDERSLADE Mary Ann Easington 10a 424
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1890 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alderslade William Easington 10a 457
Do you have access to Ancestry?? I found a couple of trees on there that might be of an interest to you;
ALDERSLADE Family Tree
Name: William Alderslade Birth: 1890 - CO Durham (Durham) Parents: George Robson Alderslade, Anne Thompson
Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Oct 2008 21:51 |
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OK, looking at this tree George was married 3 times,
First wife died 1879; Margaret Fitzpatrick, children-George and John Thomas.
2nd wife died 1885; Sarah Steadman, children-Joseph and Edward.
3rd wife, no date of death; Anne Thompson, childrten- Elizabeth T, Mary Ann and William.
It states that Anne was born in 1859
George died in 1890, so maybe Anne was still alive and unable to look after all the children.
Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Oct 2008 22:11 |
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Could this be william with his mother??
1891 England Census about William Thompson Name: William Thompson Age: 8/12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Relation: Servant Son (Servant) Gender: Male Where born: Cartle Eden Colly, Durham, England Civil Parish: Ferryhill Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Stockton Sub registration district: Sedgefield ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Hepple 58 Thomas Hepple 19 Walter Hepple 13 Annie Thompson 42 (widow) William Thompson 8/12
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BatMansDaughter
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11 Oct 2008 22:17 |
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Think this could be the above Annie's marriage;
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1895 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leroy Thomas Hilton Easington 10a 472 <<<< Sharpe John Thomas Easington 10a 472 Stephenson Sarah Easington 10a 472 Thompson Annie Easington 10a 472 <<<<<<
1901 England Census about Thomas Hilton Leroy Name: Thomas Hilton Leroy Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Annie Gender: Male Where born: Seaham Harbour, Durham, England Civil Parish: Dawdon Ecclesiastical parish: Seaham Harbour St John Town: Seaham Harbour County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Easington Sub registration district: Dawdon ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 66 Household Members: Name Age Annie Leroy 33 Mary Ellen Leroy 1 Thomas Hilton Leroy 28 John Thompson 35 (brother in law)
Dee x
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Paul
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12 Oct 2008 10:41 |
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Sorry for the delayed reply, it looks like I have opened a can of worms here.
I pesumed with Elizabeth being adopted and George dying that Ann must have died too. I only have access to GR for census searches and the ones you have listed do not show up for me. Did you get them from ancestry?
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Paul
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12 Oct 2008 10:44 |
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Oh and George Alderslade is listed as a coal miner on Elizabeths marriage cert
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Paul
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12 Oct 2008 17:47 |
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Just to add that I am in contact with a relative of Thomas Leroy, they have stated that the marriage cert them have states Annie Thompson is a spinster.
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