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Hello

A kind lady has found for me Thomas Bishop father of John Bishop c1843 and his wife Ann Hiscox c1845.

They married on 03/081869.

So, could anyone please try and find Thomas and his wife? with thier son John on an ealier census please.

They came from the Sommerset/Glos area

Thank you

Steven

1851 CENSUS - is this him?

Name: John Bishop
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Theabey
Gender: Male
Where born: Priddy, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Priddy
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Wells
Sub registration district: Wells
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Edwin Bishop 23
George Bishop 18
John Bishop 7
Robert Bishop 11
Theabey Bishop 46
Thomas Bishop 48

Alison x

on the census where john is married, he is from devon, you may want to look at the info already found

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1090977

1891 England Census
about Ann Bishop
Name: Ann Bishop
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Pensford, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Bedminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bedminster
Sub registration district: Bedminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Bishop 46
Florence B Bishop 3
John Bishop 48 [devon]
Mary J Bishop 17
Nellie Bishop 7


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if u have the same info above ,then as jenna says he is from devon

Hello
I am so greatful to you all, words cant describe.
But, even a numskull novice like me knows knows you can only have one line and the Devon one sounds attractive but far away (70 miles)
Im totally lost now, could you please explain to me in laymans terms where John Bishop c1842 comes from?
I do know he was married to Ann hiscox c1845 who was definitely born in Pensford Sommerset.
Steven
PS Priddy is a village not too far away(10 miles) if it helps.

1851 England Census
about Ann Hiscox
Name: Ann Hiscox
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Harriet
Gender: Female
Where born: Pensford, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Pensford
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Clutton
Sub registration district: Harptree
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Hiscox 6
Catherine Hiscox 3
George Hiscox 36
Harriet Hiscox 32
William Hiscox 9 Mo
Charles Windmill 72


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Hello

Well,

I have John Bishop c1842 married to Ann Hiscox c1845 as the parents of Catherine Bishop c1872 who married James Thomas Roy c1871.

Thier daughter Florence Roy c1901was my Grandmother.

Florence was married to William George Stanley Jones and they came from the Redcliffe area of Bristol.

Please help, as I now have my doubts about the whole line.

Marriage of Catherine & James

Marriages Mar 1891
Bishop Catherine Bedminster 5c 1052
Roy James Thomas Bedminster 5c 1052

Thats a start ......phew!!

Catherine & Jame's area of marriage - BEDMINSTER, a parish in the hundred of Hadcliffe with Bedminster, in the county of Somerset, a suburb of Bristol.

It seems the family are all coming from the same area - Bristol, Somerset, so in my own personal view I would go down the Somerset line, because John Bishop & Ann Hiscox were married in the District of Bristol.

One of these could be John's birth

Births Sep 1843 (>99%)

Bishop John Wells 10 455
BISHOP John Wells 10 485
Bishop John Wells 10 490

Which would again link up with Priddy.

Am I going mad or does anyone agree??

Also, just found this which again is Bristol

1881 CENSUS
Name: Catherine Bishop
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Bristol

Civil Parish: Bristol St Mary Redcliff
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address: 20 Prewetts Place
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bristol
Sub registration district: St Mary Redcliff
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

Ann Bishop 34
Catherine Bishop 9
John Bishop 36
Mary J. Bishop 7

Alison x

Alison, if you look at where john is born on the census with mary and catherine on, it states he was born Devon.

I think people are ignoring the fact that there's another thread already with censuses from 1851 to 1901 with john on. I'd take a look at it if i were you otherwise you're wasting your time

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1090977

Look, Steven this is your family. Ann, born Pensford, Somerset, as stated by yourself

1881 England Census
about Ann Bishop
Name: Ann Bishop
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Pensford, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Bristol St Mary Redcliff
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address: 20 Prewetts Place
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bristol
Sub registration district: St Mary Redcliff
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

Ann Bishop 34
Catherine Bishop 9
John Bishop 36
Mary J. Bishop 7




Now if I click on John's name to see his details, look where it says "where born"

1881 England Census
about John Bishop
Name: John Bishop
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Devon, England

Civil Parish: Bristol St Mary Redcliff
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address: 20 Prewetts Place
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Laborer

Registration district: Bristol
Sub registration district: St Mary Redcliff
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

Ann Bishop 34
Catherine Bishop 9
John Bishop 36
Mary J. Bishop 7



Now if you look on your other thread you will see that I have found all the information for you!

Hello Alison, Peter and Tania.

Thank you all for helping me with a problem which seems to have grown out of all proportion to what seemed at first a simple request.

As you say Peter I may have to disregard the Devon branch.

I wish I knew more about all of this.

Alison, as you say, PHEW but it ia a good start, and so far so good.

Tania, your findings on the 1851 census are what I believed to be true, but what if the marraige of Ann Hiscox to John Bishop is the wrong one?

Confused me!!!

Steven

Hi Jen, I agree with you, but it also states the civil parish as Bristol, St Mary Redcliffe which based on Bristol itself, its only about 20 miles from Priddy, but Devon is about 120 miles.

I can't understand why they have got Devon down with a civil parish which is 120 miles away. It doesn't make sense,

Alison x

Hi Steven, just to let you know that according to FreeBMD there is only 1 marriage of John Bishop to Ann Hiscox, so there can be no doubt about the marriage. It might also fill in some details.

Alison x

Alison, the civil parish is where the census was held, so he has moved. it wasnt unheard of. my family came from devon to liverpool in the 1800s so it wasnt unheard of for someone to move hundreds of miles.

As for Steven, it appears you are completely disregarding information which (although sometimes was incorrect) you can trace back through all the censuses!

Hello everyone

Firstly please accept my thanks to all of you for all the work you have done.

If I was able to check the censuses and all the other sites which you have access to I would do it myself just for the love of it.

Please dont think even the smallest thing anyone has found for me would/is being disregarded.

There is sometimes very little to choose between two paths, and some times one looks far more attractive than the other.

I have chosen to proceed with caution ( checking in minute detail with certs) and will stop at any leap of faith or obstacle.

The 1851 census gives us the surname FRENCH and then it is disregarded

Steve

Where has it been disregarded? Shown in the 1851 census is John's mother (Mary Ann Perry) who was the daughter of Ann French. Mary Ann was born before Ann Perry married John French.

There comes a time in all research when you have you buy certificates, it is really worth it, they open up the search, witnesses, addresses so much extra info.
Lindsey Bishop