Find Ancestors

Thanks - I will have to digest and then see if it adds up - I think it might! Thanks again.

1881 Any good
Name: Robert Read
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Bethnal Green

Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 52 Green Street

Name: Robert Read
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Bethnal Green

Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 52 Green Street
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Read 8
Mary Ann Read 31
Mary Ann Read 2
Robert Read 4
William Read 40
William Read 16

Marriages Dec 1877
Gardner James Bethnal Green 1c 551
Gresley Eliza Jane Bethnal Green 1c 551
>>>Read Mary Bethnal Green 1c 551
>>>Woodham George Tomkies Bethnal Green 1c 551

1881
Geo. WOODHAM Head M Male 48 Bethnal Green Leather Seller
Mary WOODHAM Wife M Female 32 Mile End
Henry WOODHAM Son Male 2 Bethnal Green
George WOODHAM Son Male 9 m Bethnal Green

Source Information:
Dwelling 66 Green Street
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341091
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0423 / 4
Page Number 2

1891

Name: Robert Joseph Read
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Bethnal Green, London, England

Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Simons Zelotes
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub registration district: Bethnal Green East
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Joseph Read 14
Henry Read Woodham 12
Mary Woodham 42 Head, b. Mile End
Mary Read Woodham 7
Winifred Read Woodham 1 7/12

I would advise you to look for them in 1881............... FREE to all

For info................1901

Name: Robert J Reed
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maria
Gender: Male
Where born: Bethnal Green, London, England

Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St James the Less
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub registration district: Bethnal Green, East
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 277
Household Members: Name Age
Maria Reed 23
Robert J Reed 24

Trying a slightly different track - but still need help please!

Eliza's sister Maria married a Robert Joseph Read in1 900. Could this be Williams brother?

Does the 1891 census show a Robert Read aged 14 and William Read aged 19 at same address anywhere in Bethnal Green??

I took the info directly from Ancestry..........Monis is clearly a transcription 'blip'.........BUT the image clearly shows Richard's second initial as 'J'.

I don't know where you got your info.................

Just noticed your 1891 entry is MONIS. I have exactly the same details recorded for MORRIS but Richard is Richard G (not J). Is this a transcript error do you think? Why have we returned slightly different info?

Thanks - I had a note of this - but I didn't record that the name is REED rather than READ. Phonetic searches would pick this up though - right?

And 1891..............

Name: Eliza Monis
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Richard J
Gender: Female
Where born: Bethnal Green, London, England

Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabus
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub registration district: Bethnal Green East
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Monis 20
Richard J Monis 20 b. Bethnal Green
Rosina M Monis 8/12

1901....for info

Name: John W Reed
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Bethnal Green, London, England

Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St James the Less
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub registration district: Bethnal Green, East
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 279
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Reed 29 b. Bethnal Green
John W Reed 1
William Reed 39 b. St Luke, London

1891 - I only have a note that I have found them - I don't have the print-out. Richard G Morris aged 20 coachman with wife Eliza 20 and Rosina Maud aged 1 at 7 Gardeners Road, Bethnal Green - her parents are at 11 Gardeners Road

1901 - again just a note in my file that I found her - William Read, Eliza Read and John W Read aged 1 in Bethnal Green but I haven't made a note of the address. I may have made a big assumption but I don't think so.

I am not having any luck finding them in 1891 census was just going to post it for ref.

Sorry - silly question. I guess it will say what Eliza told the registrar!! Not sure if this will help but I think I get the birth cert to see.

Thanks again!

OK. I know there was a daughter May Elizabeth Read born 1901 - and I think I have found her birth

Births Dec 1901 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
READ May Eliza Bethnal G. 1c 230

Would her birth certificate tell me if her parents were married or not??

If Richard didn't die............then it is extremely unlikely that Eliza and William actually married..........

No - I haven't been able to find that either!

You make no mention of having found Richard Morris's death............

That's closer than anything I've managed to find! Wrong area though - they were all living in Bethnal Green area but the date would work - I guess it's worth £3 to find out - thanks!

the closest I can find is this one

Marriages Jun 1898
Cock Herbert Brentford 3a 86
>>>Harris Eliza Brentford 3a 86
Mack Annie Roselyn Brentford 3a 86
>>>Read William Brentford 3a 86

I did wonder if perhaps the original indices had been mis-transcribed (Mo could easikly be misread as Ha) and if it was worth sending for the certificate which from the GRO would be a photocopy of the original not a translation. You could say you only wanted it is the spouse of William Read was Eliza Morris then it would only cost £3 if it was wrong.