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1881Name: Thomas Hill
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Kirkby Mallory, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Buckingham
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address: Manor Street

Occupation: Groom (D)


Household Members: Name Age
Ann Hill 21
Thomas Hill 28
William F. Hill 1

Ann at home with the children 1891
Name: Ann Hill
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Hampstead Marshall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Village
County/Island: Berkshire
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Hill 5 -Where born: Hampstead Marshall, Berkshire, England
Ann Hill 31
Annie Hill 1 -Where born: Hampstead Marshall
Edward Hill 3 -Where born: Hampstead Marshall, Berkshire
Emily Hill 8 -Where born: Buckinghamshire, England
Mary A Hill 9 -Where born: Mortimer, Berkshire, England
William H Hill 11 -Where born: Buckinghamshire, England

1891 Thomas is a Groom married working away from home
Name: Thomas Hill
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Kirkby Mallory, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peters and St Lukes
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Hill 38
Edith Smith 14
Fanny Smith 40
Thomas Smith 45

wonder if this is Thomas death index if they were in Northamptonshire
Name: Thomas Hill
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Year of Registration: 1917
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 64
District: Kettering
County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 204

could be the one known as James
Name: Robert James Hill
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Newbury
County: Berkshire, Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 231
and there are some of the oher names after 1901 census registered in Newbury that match the names you have posted for siblings

If you go to search trees on this site you will find some of these names so it might be worth sending them a message to see if it is the family (my mother thought her family came from London until i found them in Suffolk and then they moved to London)

The above Charles birth index
Its for Jan-Mar and this is when registered and not birth date
Name: Charles Hill
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Newbury
County: Berkshire, Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 265

????1901 mistranscribed and perhaps famiy legend has it wrong
Name: Thomas Kill ------STABLEMAN
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Kirkby, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Hampstead Marshall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Hampstead Marshall
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Name: Ann Kill
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Buckingham, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Hampstead Marshall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Hampstead Marshall
County/Island: Berkshire
Name: Charles Kill
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Hamstead Marshall, Berkshire, England

Civil Parish: Hampstead Marshall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Hampstead Marshall
County/Island: Berkshire
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Kill 15
Ann Kill 41
Annie Kill 11
Charles Kill 1
Edward Kill 13
Ernest G Kill 8
Fredrick Kill 6
Robert J Kill 9
Thomas Kill 48
WILL LOOK FOR THEM IN 1891

not finding siblings around the same time as Charles but later births ? some named after siblings
Ada M Hill 1923 Apr-May-Jun Martin Kettering Northamptonshire

Albert W Hill 1921 Oct-Nov-Dec Martin Kettering Northamptonshire

Daphne M Hill 1925 Jan-Feb-Mar Martin Kettering Northamptonshire

Dorothy S Hill 1926 Jul-Aug-Sep Martin Kettering Northamptonshire

Douglas D Hill 1922 Jul-Aug-Sep Martin Kettering Northamptonshire
Ernest J Hill 1920 Apr-May-Jun Martin Kettering Northamptonshire

Frederick T Hill 1920 Jul-Aug-Sep Martin Kettering Northamptonshire

do you know when any of the siblings died?
the death index would have the age which could help in finding birth indexes in the same area and census records

Thanks Barbara. I am 99% certain that it is that area.

Maybe the birth was never actually registered ?

I'll find him though - now it's personal !! :o)

Definitely Loddington, Northamptonshire

That's what I thought, but sadly - I still can't find his birth registered anywhere...

If his birth had never been registered, would he have still been able to get married ? Would he not have had to produce a birth certificate do you think ?

just found LODDINGTON, Northants on Google
the nearest reg district would be Kettering

Christine

There is also a bit of confusion about the Loddington/Luddington thing, as the marriage certificate has been typed out with Luddington, but my father is 100% sure it should be Loddington...

I did find that record - but he was born in December...?

His father's name was Thomas Hill, who was listed as a groom on the marriage certificate (although he was also dead by then - 1928). The other children were:

Ernest James
Agnes
Annie
Polly
Frederick
James
Sheila
Douglas
John

and there were another couple of children, but unfortunately no-one can remember their names...

Many thanks,
Alison

What where the other childrens names?.

Andy

do you want to give me his fathers name?
another pair of eyes!

Christine