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Please can anyone find Thomas Allen on 1891 census

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Valerie

Valerie Report 20 Sep 2008 01:15

Trying to find Thomas Allen and his family on 1891 census. They were in Knebworth, Lincolnshire on the 1881 census. Thomas was born in Spalding, Lincs c1837, His wife, Julia Ann was born in Hatfield, Herts c1836. Daughter Elizabeth C Allen was born in Chingford, Essex c1864. Son Thomas William Allen was born c1866 in Chingford, Essex and daughter Edith J was born c1870 in Little Berkhamstead, Herts.
I have also looked on the 1901 census and was unable to find any of them on there.

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Just posting this because it's easier to read:

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas ALLEN Head M Male 42 Spaulding, Lincoln, England Innkeeper
Julia ALLEN Wife M Female 42 Hatfield, Hertford, England
Elizabeth C. ALLEN Daur U Female 17 Chingford, Essex, England Innkeeper Daur
Thomas W. ALLEN Son Male 15 Chingford, Essex, England Innkeeper Assistant (Dom)
Edith J. ALLEN Daur Female 11 Berkhampstead, Hertford, England Scholar

Dwelling Broadwater Farm Roebuck Inn
Census Place Knebworth, Hertford, England


Rose

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Always important to know the middle names:

Eliza Catharine, Thomas William and Edith Julia.

Rose

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Marriages Mar 1889
Allen Eliza Catherine Edmonton 3a 331
Bell Claude John T Edmonton 3a 331

1891 England Census
about Eliza C Bell
Name: Eliza C Bell
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Claude J
Gender: Female
Where born: Chingford, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Cheshunt
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Edmonton
Sub registration district: Cheshunt
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Claude J Bell 27
Eliza C Bell 27

Rose


Valerie

Valerie Report 20 Sep 2008 01:44

Thank you for looking Rose. I already have them on the 1881 census, but can't find any of them on the 1891 or 1901 censuses.
Maybe they emigrated somewhere!!
Val

Valerie

Valerie Report 20 Sep 2008 01:50

Sorry Rose, I realise what you mean by posting the 1881 census results. (It's late and I'm tired!)
I couldn't find a death for Thomas or Julia Ann.
Thank you for the middle names and the marriage info.
Val

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1900 United States Federal Census
about Julia A Allen
Name: Julia A Allen
Home in 1900: Minneapolis Ward 12, Hennepin, Minnesota
Age: 62
Birth Date: Feb 1838
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Immigration Year: 1890
Relationship to head-of-house: Wife
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Mother: number of living children: 3
Mother: How many children: 3
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Marriage Year: 1863
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 37
Residence : Minneapolis City, Hennepin, Minnesota
Occupation: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Allen 61 Day laborer R. R.
Julia A Allen 62
Eliza C Bell 36
Claude C Bell 8


Rose

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Says Thomas and Julia came out in 1890 and Eliza in 1892. She is a widow and lost one of her 2 children.

Rose

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1910 United States Federal Census
about Julia A Allen
Name: Julia A Allen
Age in 1910: 75
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Mother
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Home in 1910: Minneapolis Ward 7, Hennepin, Minnesota
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Gender: Female
Year of Immigration: 1892
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
E Catherine Bell 46
Claude C Bell 18 Cutter printers shop
Julia A Allen 75

Rose

Valerie

Valerie Report 20 Sep 2008 01:57

Brilliant! Thank you so much Rose, you've been a great help.
Val

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World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Claude Conrad Bell
Name: Claude Conrad Bell
City: Minneapolis
County: Hennepin
State: Minnesota
Birthplace: Hertfordshire;England
Birth Date: 21 Jun 1891
Race: Caucasian (White)
Roll: 1675685
DraftBoard: 13

Rose

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1920 United States Federal Census
about Claude C Bells
Name: Claude C Bells
[Claude C Bell]
Home in 1920: Minneapolis Ward 13, Hennepin, Minnesota
Age: 28 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Name: Catherine E
Mother's Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Year of Immigration: 1892
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 959
Household Members: Name Age
Catherine E Bells 55
Claude C Bells 28
Julia A Allen 85

Rose


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1930 United States Federal Census
about Claude C Bell
Name: Claude C Bell
Home in 1930: Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Mother's Name: E Catherine
Race: White
Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Claude C Bell 38
E Catherine Bell 66

Rose

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1900 United States Federal Census
about Thomas W Allen
Name: Thomas W Allen
Home in 1900: Minneapolis Ward 12, Hennepin, Minnesota
Age: 33
Birth Date: Nov 1866
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Immigration Year: 1890
Relationship to head-of-house: Boarder
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Marriage Year: 1893
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 7
Residence : Minneapolis City, Hennepin, Minnesota
Occupation: View Image
Household Members: Name Age
Nettus T Brown 57
Alice Brown 40
Eulalie Brown 14
Thomas W Allen 33
Elizabeth A Allen 30
Alfred T Allen 5

Rose

Valerie

Valerie Report 20 Sep 2008 02:27

Ah, so Thomas William also emigrated to Minneapolis. I wonder if Edith Julia went out there as well? Thank you so much for all your investigation, I really appreciate it. Do the censuses give the occupations of residents?
Val

Valerie

Valerie Report 20 Sep 2008 02:31

Eliza's husband Claude John Tone Bell died March quarter 1894 in Edmonton, Essex district so it seems strange that she emigrated in 1892 and stated that she was a widow.
Val

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That's what I was thinking.

I can't find any of them on the passenger lists.

Rose

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I have to go now. I'll fill in the occupations later.

Rose

Valerie

Valerie Report 20 Sep 2008 02:56

thank you very much Rose.
Val