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Colette
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14 Sep 2008 17:41 |
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Hi im using my friends account to post this but;
Trying to find out information on a Robert Fenn born c1861. He was married to a Mary and together they had 3 children that I know of Alfred, Robert and Anne. Alfred was in the army and died in service of the first world war.
Im looking to find relatives to these so I can go further back on my tree than Robert or even Find Marys maiden name
Any information you have would be great. I think they lived in around Burnley, Lancashire
Thanks Sheridan Fenn
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GlitterBaby
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14 Sep 2008 17:42 |
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Do you have any certs at all?
Have you found Robert on any census?
when and where were the children born?
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GlitterBaby
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14 Sep 2008 17:44 |
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1901 is this the family?
Name: Robert Fenn Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Little Marcle, Herefordshire, England Civil Parish: Burnley Ecclesiastical parish: Burnley St Stephen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Burnley Sub registration district: West Ward ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 197 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Fenn 12 Annie Fenn 14 Mary Ann Fenn 45 Ledbury, Herefordshire Robert Fenn 40 Robert H Fenn 17
Also on 1891 Name: Robert Fenn Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Little Marsh, Herefordshire, England Civil Parish: Habergham Eaves Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Burnley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: railway shunter
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Burnley Sub registration district: Burnley ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alfred Fenn 8 Annie Fenn 4 Mary A Fenn 34 Ledbury, Herefordshire Robert Fenn 30 Robert H Fenn 7
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KathleenBell
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14 Sep 2008 17:51 |
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As a lodger in 1881:-
Name: Robert Fenn Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Little Marcle, Hereford, England Civil Parish: Dymock County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address: Old Field Education:
Employment status:
View Image Occupation: Farm Labourer Registration district: Newent Sub registration district: Redmarley ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age
Robert Fenn 20 Charlotte Jnns 67 Richard Jnns 70
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2528; Folio: 11; Page: 6; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341610.
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GlitterBaby
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14 Sep 2008 17:54 |
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Been wondering about this marriage
Marriages Dec 1882 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FENN Robert Thornbury 6a 398 Gregory John Thornbury 6a 398 Hopkins Mary Ann Thornbury 6a 398 James Elizabeth Thornbury 6a 398
There is a Mary Anne Hopkins on 1881 that might fit
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KathleenBell
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14 Sep 2008 17:54 |
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With his parents in 1861 census:-
Name: Robert Fenn Age: 10weeks Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Hannah Gender: Male Where born: Little Marcle, Herefordshire, England Civil Parish: Dymock Ecclesiastical parish: Bristol and Gloucester County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View Image Registration district: Newent Sub registration district: Redmarley ED, institution, or vessel: 2e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 91
Household Members: Name Age
Hannah Fenn 24 Robert Fenn 25 Robert Fenn 10weeks
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1761; Folio: 26; Page: 15; GSU roll: 542864.
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KathleenBell
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14 Sep 2008 18:00 |
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This looks like Robert's birth:-
Name: Robert Fenn Year of Registration: 1861 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Ledbury County: Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester, Worcestershire Volume: 6a Page: 414
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GlitterBaby
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14 Sep 2008 18:02 |
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1871 Name: Robert Henn Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Adop Child (Child) Gender: Male Where born: Little Marcle, Herefordshire, England Civil Parish: Dymock Ecclesiastical parish: Gloucester Bristol County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Newent Sub registration district: Redmarley ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 95 Household Members: Name Age Robert Henn 10 Charlotte Jones 60 Richard Jones 60 Not sure the names is Jones - unusual first letter which could be I - so I think this is Innes
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KathleenBell
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14 Sep 2008 18:03 |
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Think this MAY be his parent's marriage:-
Name: Robert Fenn Year of Registration: 1860 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Ledbury County: Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester, Worcestershire Volume: 6a Page: 887
Also on the page is Anna Stephens (Hannah on the census as these names were often interchanged).
His birth certificate would confirm his parent's names.
Kath. x
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GlitterBaby
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14 Sep 2008 18:07 |
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1851 but I need to check the image
Name: Robert Fenn Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Ledbury, Herefordshire, England Civil Parish: Ledbury County/Island: Herefordshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Ledbury Sub registration district: Ledbury ED, institution, or vessel: 5h Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 73 Household Members: Name Age Robert Fenn 16 Charlotte Inns 45 Richard Inns 44 Thomas Powell 65 John Stephens 14
Just wondering if this is the same Richard and Charlotte but listed as Jones on later census
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KathleenBell
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14 Sep 2008 18:11 |
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This is Robert Fenn (the father) on the 1841 census but for some reason he seems to be down as living on his own (but he's only 5 ???). He is living in the same house as Charlotte and Richard Harris, but is classed as a separate household.
Name: Robert Fenn Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Gender: Male Where born: Herefordshire, England Civil Parish: Ledbury Hundred: Radlow County/Island: Herefordshire Country: England Street address:
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View Image Registration district: Ledbury Sub registration district: Ledbury Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert Fenn 5
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 425; Book: 3; Civil Parish: Ledbury; County: Herefordshire; Enumeration District: 7; Folio: 4; Page: 2; Line: 6; GSU roll: 288818.
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KathleenBell
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14 Sep 2008 18:17 |
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Just noticed Glitter's post about the 1851 census.
Do you think this Charlotte and Richard just liked changing their surname?
Perhaps there was something strange about them adopting Robert and then changing their names and moving out of the area (or am I just getting carried away with myself, lol).
Kath. x
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GlitterBaby
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14 Sep 2008 18:21 |
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Kath,
We are thinking along the same lines.
I think that Charlotte and Richard are the same people on all the census we have posted.
Maureen
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KathleenBell
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14 Sep 2008 18:27 |
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I think you are right Maureen. I wish Collette would come back with some feedback.
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GlitterBaby
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14 Sep 2008 18:27 |
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1861 ???
Name: Charlotte Jones Age: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Richard Gender: Female Where born: Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Dymock Ecclesiastical parish: Bristol and Gloucester County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Newent Sub registration district: Redmarley ED, institution, or vessel: 2e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 90 Household Members: Name Age Charlotte Jones 56 Richard Jones 56 John Protheroe 25
Living next door to Robert and Hannah Fenn
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Colette
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14 Sep 2008 18:31 |
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Omg thats so good............ I had the first census where he was married and with children.
I didnt know about him being a lodger tho and thats good and finding the one before with his parents is even better.
Even mary's maiden name is here thank you very much
Thanks a million
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Colette
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14 Sep 2008 18:32 |
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So now i'll go and look for his parents maybe brothers and sisters see what comes up there
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GlitterBaby
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14 Sep 2008 18:36 |
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Buy some certs to sort this out.
Get one of the childrens first to get the maiden name of the mother.
Then see if it matches the possible 1882 marriage. If it does then buy that cert. If it does not then you will have to look for another possible marriage.
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Colette
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14 Sep 2008 18:44 |
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I have birth certs up til Alfred Fenn who was the son of Robert Fenn, which is the Robert you guys think that was adopted by the next door neighbours.
This might be how my family came to live in the Burnley area.
As all the names are matching up so far.
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GlitterBaby
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14 Sep 2008 18:46 |
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Puzzled !!!!
If you have birth certs then why did you not give those details in your original request ?
Maureen
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