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Hi, I have just received a birth certificate for William. This shows that his parents were Thomas Metcalfe and Bessy Woods. This is not what I expected to see as their names have never come up on census returns with William. The only census returns I have found, show William living with his grandparents Richard Metcalfe and Mary in Ripon, along with his older sisters - Margaret, Mary and Jane. I thought, wrongly, that william was illegitimate.

However, I now have the problem that I can not find any census records for Thomas and Mary. I am wondering what happened to them and why William was brought up with his grandparents.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Which census do you have him on?

have you looked for deaths for Thomas & Bessy

I have him on 1841 Census.

I have looked for their deaths - not found them but I could have missed them or they could have died in another area.

Sandra

1851
me: Richard Metcalfe
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ripon, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Ripon
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Ripon
Sub registration district: Markington
ED, institution, or vessel: 3c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members:
Name Age
John Metcalfe 7
Margaret Metcalfe 2
Mary Metcalfe 38
Mary Metcalfe 6
Richard Metcalfe 9
Thomas Metcalfe 4
William Metcalfe 37

where was he in 1841, I can't see him

Whoops, sorry thats his uncle!!

I'll get back to you on that one!!

Sandra

There is a Thomas Metcalfe and Elizabeth Wood on this entry page
Thomas Metcalfe
Year of Registration: 1841
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Ripon
County: Yorkshire - North Riding, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 23
Page: 392

This is so frustrating, I was so sure that I had found William, living with his grandparents on the 1851 census now I can not find it. I am now beginging to question everything about my research.

What I am sure about is that he was born in 1844 Ripon

Phew, found him on the 1851 census, living with his Grandparents and uncle William.

Sandra

There are two of them in 1891, which one is him?

1891 England Census
1891 U.K. Census Collection
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Name: William Metcalfe
Spouse: Frances M
Birth: abt 1845 - Ripon, Yorkshire, England
Residence: 1891 - Derby, New Normanton, Derbyshire, England


Match quality: 3 out of 5 1891 England Census
1891 U.K. Census Collection
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Name: William Metcalfe
Spouse: Elizabeth
Birth: abt 1843 - Ripon, Yorkshire, England
Residence: 1891 - Chapel Allerton (Allerton Chapel), Yorkshire, England

Post the 1851 census for reference because I can't see it

Name: William Metcalf
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Sharow, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Hutton Conyers
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Ripon
Sub registration district: Markington
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 55
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Metcalf 57
Richard Metcalf 57
William Metcalf 12
William Metcalf 6


Sandra

Oh Sharow which is just next to Ripon

. MARY METCALFE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 MAY 1828 Sharow By Ripon, Yorkshire, England
2. MARGARET METCALFE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 FEB 1833 Sharow By Ripon, Yorkshire, England
3. JANE METCALFE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 23 OCT 1825 Sharow By Ripon, Yorkshire, England

all Richard Metcalfe and Mary

unfortunately the only IGI records are
C108941 1825-1837

I have checked the NBI discs for the deaths of his parents, but Sharow and Ripon are not covered

In 1841 Sharow is in Ripon district 13A

It is a tiny place and there are only 5 pages on the census, but there is no one called Metcalfe there.
There is a joiner called Isaac Wood 60, with his wife Sarah 55 and a William 20, but no Betsy

Oops ripon is in the West Riding
burial dates from the NBI

28 Oct 1846 Richard METCALF 7m Yorks W/R Sharow, Holy Trinity
7 Feb 1847 Elizabeth METCALF 27 Yorks W/R Sharow, Holy Trinity
2 Oct 1853 Jane METCALF 38 Yorks W/R Sharow, Holy Trinity
8 Oct 1853 Richard METCALF inf Yorks W/R Sharow, Holy Trinity
30 Aug 1857 Richard METCALFE 64 Yorks W/R Sharow, Holy Trinity
13 Apr 1862 Ann METCALFE 30 Yorks W/R Sharow, Holy Trinity
5 Sep 1869 Henry METCALFE inf Yorks W/R Sharow, Holy Trinity
9 Sep 1871 James METCALFE 39 Yorks W/R Sharow, Holy Trinity
12 Mar 1873 James Pinkney METCALFE inf Yorks W/R Sharow, Holy Trinity
5 Dec 1873 Mary METCALFE 82 Yorks W/R Sharow, Holy Trinity
20 Sep 1881 Mary METCALFE 26 Yorks W/R Sharow, Holy Trinity
19 Oct 1883 Richard METCALFE 62 Yorks W/R Sharow, Holy Trinity


I wonder if that 1847 Elizabeth could have been Bessy

Hi Linda, thanks for the igi information - but I have already got this and have managed to go back quite away on Mary Metcalfes line, as Mary's mother is living with them in 1841 - Jane umpleby.

it was William's parents who were and still are the puzzle.

There are 300 Metcalfe burials in Ripon ranging from 1583 to 1900