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Tim

Tim Report 21 Aug 2008 23:59

Hi, i'm trying to find out about a Robert Bernard Adams c1858 his wife was a Annie and i now of one son Willie Archibald Adams.
I think Robert Died in North Kent but dont no where, or when he was born or his Wife's maiden name, anything would be good.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 00:04

Births Mar 1894 (>99%)
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Adams Willie Archibald Dartford 2a 508

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 00:06

for info;

1901 England Census
about Willie Adams
Name: Willie Adams
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Snodland, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Snodland
Ecclesiastical parish: Snodland All Saints
Town: Snodland
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Malling
Sub registration district: Aylesford
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 177
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Adams 42
Arthur Adams 9
George Adams 15
Joy Adams 5
Rose Adams 11
Violet Adams 13
Willie Adams 7
Fredk Parri 43
Ida Parri 31


BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 00:23

Not sure if the above is the right family as on the 1891 census father is william, found this though;

Marriages Sep 1879 (>99%)
Adams Robert Sheppey 2a 1218
Arnold Anne Lavinia Sheppey 2a 1218
Arnold Annie Lavinia Sheppey 2a 1218

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 00:50

TPA, you say you know of the one son willie, any dates for him??

I cannot find Robert with Ann on the census returns.

Dee

Tim

Tim Report 22 Aug 2008 21:18

Hi Denise, I also looked at the 1901 census with the annie from Snodland and like you was not sure that it was the right one,Willie Archibald Adams was my Grandfather i have a Marriage Certificate and Death Certificate for him, Willie was born on 13/01/1894 He married Mary Hawkes in 1921 his fathers name is on the certificate as Robert Bernard Adams, Profession, Cooper (Foreman) Willie's residence was Swanscombe on the certificate which was where my Dad said the Family came from,so the Snodland connection was a surprise to him, I'm doubt'full now that his wife was a Annie as it was finding the only Willie Archibald Adams that lead me to that name..... if that makes sense.
The marriage was witnessed by a Harold Percy Adams, i have no idea who he is,could be a Brother or Uncle. Many Thanks
Tim

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 22:12

Hi,

Births Mar 1887 (>99%)
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Adams Harold Percy Dartford 2a 469


maybe a cousin???

Dee

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 22:13

OOhh

1891 England Census
about Harold Adams
Name: Harold Adams
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Bernhard
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Swanscombe, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Swanscombe
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Swanscombe
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Dartford
Sub registration district: Dartford
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Amy G Adams 10
Bernhard Adams 38
Bernhard Adams 12
Bertha Adams 7
Ethel B Adams 9
Harold Adams 4
Lily Adams 1
Mary A Adams 36
Maud Adams 6


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 22:15

Bingo!!!

the Bernard on the above is a COOPER!!!!

Maybe a second family???

Dee

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 22:16

Bernard was born in Germany!!!!

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 22:18

1881 England Census
about Bernhard R. Adams
Name: Bernhard R. Adams
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A.
Gender: Male
Where born: Germany

Civil Parish: Swanscombe
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: 15 Church Road
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Cooper

Registration district: Dartford
Sub registration district: Dartford
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Amy G. Adams
Bernard W. Adams 2
Bernhard R. Adams 28
Mary A. Adams 25


The R after Bernard, Robert???

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 22:19

Dad's definately in for a shock now!!!!

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 22:29

Marriages Jun 1878 (>99%)
--
Adams Bernard Whitechapel 1c 717
Adams Bernhard Whitechapel 1c 717
Lloyd Mary Ann Whitechapel 1c 717

A strong possibility

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 23 Aug 2008 01:36

Hi,

The original census is very poor, I'm guessing this says Bernard.

1861 England Census
about Burchard Adams
Name: Burchard Adams
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Johannes
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Germany

Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub registration district: Mile End Old Town Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 242
Household Members: Name Age
Burchard Adams 8
Elizabeth Adams 41
Jacob Adams 12
Johannes Adams 49 (baker??)
Phillip Adams 18
Arnold Kabermike 27 (Lodger, germany)


Dee

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 23 Aug 2008 01:39

1871 England Census
about Bernard Adams
Name: Bernard Adams
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Apprentice
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, London, England
Civil Parish: St Peter
Town: St Albans
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: St Albans
Sub registration district: St Albans
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 134
Household Members: Name Age
Bernard Adams 18
Alfred Coles 44
Elizabeth Coles 21

I'm guessing that this is him aswell, he's a Bakers Apprentice.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 23 Aug 2008 02:02

I've been trying to trace Johannes and Elizabeth (bernards parents)

can't find them on the 1871 on onwards, found this though;

Deaths Sep 1864 (>99%)
--
ADAMS Jonas Islington 1b 196

Now this maybe Johannes, I'm not 100% sure though.

Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 23 Aug 2008 02:21

Uuumm,

1901 England Census
about Harold Adams
Name: Harold Adams
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Swanscombe, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Swanscombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Swanscombe All Saints
Town: Swanscombe
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Dartford
Sub registration district: Dartford
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 194
Household Members: Name Age
Bernhard Adams 22
Ethel Adams 19 **
Fred Adams 2
Harold Adams 14 **
Hilda Adams 9
Mary A Adams 46
Maud Adams 16 **
Robert Adams 48 (Cooper)
William Adams 6 !!**$$££!!** Found you!!!
James Lloyd 50 (Lodger)


IS THIS WILLIE?????

Robert (or Bernard) is stating that he was born in; Whitechapel, London, England

Confused??? but this would tie in nicely with the info on Willie's certs that you have.

Look at the wifes name and the 1891 census for Bernard, recognise the children???

Dee x


BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 23 Aug 2008 02:29

Ohh BLOW!!!

Births Mar 1895 (>99%)
-
Adams William Henry Dartford 2a 529

Really thought we'd found him then!!

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 23 Aug 2008 02:33

Once you have the birth certs, I think it will be the name of the mother that will sort it all out for us.

Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 23 Aug 2008 21:29

Hi,

30 High Street, Galley Hill.

Does that address mean anything to your Dad???

Dee