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Oh blimey......

I ordered the birth certificate for Annie Amelia Atkins that was registered in Pancras 1879 Q1, just to see, maybe the family was in that area for a brief time for whatever reason.

I have just found out that she was registered under her mother's maiden name Barby & was registered in the correct place for where the family was living in Northamptonshire!!

Grrr! Why are families so complicated !!??

Oh thank you so much Angie for the death - I didnt know Brixworth was in Northamptonshire !!!

Now just to find her birth !!

Thanks again !

Donna

oh ok will have a look at that,

I must have overlooked it , thanks Angie

Hi Donna,

The 1891 census entry posted by Seaham Lass shows John Alkins (its mistranscribed on ancestry) actually reads Atkins and his occupation is a bricklayer.

The reference is Class: RG12; Piece: 1189; Folio 57; Page 17;

Also deaths: Dec qtr 1950 - Hall Annie A (age 71) - Brixworth vol. 3b page 467

Regards

Angie

I am also very frustrated with her death.

I visited the graveyard at Deanshanger, Northants and found her & husbands grave.

I know from that she died on 27 November 1950 but I cannot for the life of me find her in the index.

Also still cannot find her in 1891 census and still cannot find her birth.

Ooooooooohhhhhhhh I am pulling me hair out !!!

Hello

I have received the marriage certificate for George Ernest Hall & Annie Amelia Atkins.

It states as Annie being 22 in 1901 and her father being named as John Atkins - Bricklayer.

Now then, still the question as to why I cannot find her birth entry when it says she was born in Deanshanger Northants.

Anyone's help would be appreciated.

I have just ordered the certificate.

I guess I was just going by the area the rest of the family is from .....which I guess is being a bit presumptious ! (If thats the right word!)

Many thanks for the census entries Seaham Lass !!

Hi,

You really need the certificate of the marriage before you can go any further. You would be gutted if you had followed a tree for generations and then found they weren't yours!! The certificate will cost you £7 and that will set you right.

Teresa

Teresa,

I have not obtained the marriage certificate yet but is next on my 'to do' list.

As for the connection.... I suppose you saying that teresa has given me the wake up call, because I know for sure because of the marriage that it was Annie Amelia Atkins that married George Ernest Hall but without the certificate how do I know I am tracing the right one??

Eeeek !

Hi there,

I still don't know how you are sure that you are following the correct person. Do you have details from marriage certificate of her father?

Teresa

1891 England Census about Sarah Alkins
Name: Sarah Alkins
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Deanshanger, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Passenham
Ecclesiastical parish: Passenham
Town: Deanshanger
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Potterspury
Sub registration district: Potterspury
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Annie Alkins 12
Clara Alkins 4
George Alkins 7
Harry Alkins 1
John Alkins 33
Sarah Alkins 31
s
Name: Sarah Atkins
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Northants, Denshanger
Civil Parish: Passenham
Ecclesiastical parish: Deanshanger and Passenham St Guthlac
Town: Deanshanger
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Potterspury
Sub registration district: Potterspury
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 86
Household Members:
Name Age
Annie Atkins 21
Clara Atkins 13
George Atkins 16
Harry Atkins 11
John Atkins 42
Lucy Atkins 4
Samuel Atkins 7
Sarah Atkins 41
Sophia Atkins 8 months

sorry Donna - I think I am missing something here. What makes you sure that the Ann in Northhants & your Annie are the same person?
There are many Annie's & Ann Atkins

There is a marriage for a Sarah Barby to John Atkinson in 1879, Potterspury, Northants
Oct - Dec
Vol 3b Page 65

Hi,


What is her fathers name and occupation on her marriage certificate?

Teresa

details of 1881 census

Ann Atkins
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Granddaughter
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Denshanger, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Passenham
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address: High Street
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Potterspury
Sub registration district: Potterspury
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Atkins 2
Sarah Atkins 21
Alvin H. Barbey 15
Arthur Barbey 8
Clara Barbey 6
Eden Barbey 13
Fred Barbey 10
King Barbey
Charles Barby 18
Charlotte Barby 24
George Barby 47
Jane Barby 43
Joseph Barby 16


teresa

That is what her name is Ann Atkins on the 1881 but then when she married my great grandfather George Ernest Hall in Q4 of 1901 , it states her name as Annie Amelia Atkins.

That has threw me completely.

So Ann / Anne/Annie Atkins or
Annie Amelia Atkins.....

can't find an annie amelia only an Ann Atkins born Denshanger. Can you post the details please

I did see that one myself and pondered on it for a while...

but on the 1881 census it says that she was born deanshanger , northants.

Unfortunately I cannot find any other census entry for her to see what her place of birth is on them.

a little bit stuck.....

Births Mar 1879 (>99%)
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Atkins Ann Poplar 1c 666
Atkins Annie Amelia Pancras 1b 200

Hi,

There is an annie Amelia Atkins born in right year - wrong place. Are you sure on the place of birth?

Teresa