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christina

brilliant!!!!!!!!
thanks very much. i tried for ages last night and today. your a star!

thanks lots and lots

andrea xxxxxxxx

The other childrens births...


Births Dec 1894 (>99%)
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HONE Walter James Croydon 2a 278




Births Jun 1897 (>99%)
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Hone Edward Croydon 2a 394




Births Mar 1900 (>99%)
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Hone William John Croydon 2a 325

Finally!! I think it's them. Reads Hone on image. Lizzie is aged 10. It does say William..but the enumerator may have made a mistake.


1901 England Census
about William J Hare
Name: William J Hare
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jemima
Gender: Male
Where born: Mitcham, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Mitcham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: Bricklayer's labourer

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Croydon
Sub registration district: Mitcham
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 211
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Hare 3
James Hare 6
Jemima Hare 35..Essex
Lizze Hare 15 ..10 on image
William Hare 1
William J Hare 31

All others born in Mitcham.

could anyone help find the family that i have from the 1891 census on this thread in 1901. tried but failed

andrea

jill
thanks for your help and info on this. i feel alot better about it now.
thanks again

andrea x

yes that marriage fits from the birth cert-eliza swatton(mother) walter hone(father)

must have the right one then maybe

andrea

He may not have been 100% sure ...

on the death cert it says the occupation= wife of charles hawkins (which is her 2nd husband who took her married surname). surely he would of known her age?

andrea

If you're happy with the birth cert this looks like mum and dad's marriage:

Marriages Sep 1890 (>99%)
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Clark Ada Jane Croydon 2a 415
Hone Walter James Croydon 2a 415
Pepper Walter Hindes Croydon 2a 415
SWATTON Eliza Jemima M Croydon 2a 415


The details from here would give you a further double-check. The ages on the marriage cert should match the ages on the 1891 census that you have for her parents. And again, occupations and addresses might help too.

Jill

Well the birth cert firts with the age at marriage so that's OK.

If she was 49 when she died she would have been born between 16.11.1888 and 14.11.1890 so it's likely that whoever gave her age at death was not 100% sure. That's reasonable - I think a lot of children (even grown up children) did not necessarily know how old their parents were.

Jill

hi jill
walters occupation on the birth cert says general labourer.
eliza's date of birth on cert says 20th march 1891.and it says on cert that it was registered on 13th april 1891.

andrea

What was Walter's occupation on the birth cert?

Do the addresses match any other info you have?

I would be fairly happy with it if I were you as info on age on death is only as good as the informant.

You don't give her date of birth from the birth cert but if she was 22 on 4 Aug 1912 she could have been born anytime between 5.8.1889 and 3.8.1891.

Jill

hi all
just recieved the eliza birth cert.it does state that walter james hone is her father and eliza is her mother.
still not sure if this is the right birth to the marriage and death certs that i have because it would work out that she would of been 47 yrs in 1938 when she died, but on the death cert it says she was 49. and on the marriage cert she would of been 21 but it says she was 22. what do you all recon!!!!

andrea

just ordered the cert. fingers crossed.

thanks all. let you know the verdict lol.

andrea

thanks glen i will.

thanks christina i will go for that one

no sign of them in 1901 census??

thanks everybody

andrea

Andrea, I've added the piece, folio and page no. Just enter those.

I would go with the Eliza birth.

The 1891 census was taken on April 5th, if she was two weeks old at the time the Lambeth registration can't be the right one whereas the Croydon one fits just right.

The fact that she used Elizabeth on her marriage cert might mean she preferred to be known by the name (and there was no check to ensure the name used appears on the birth certificate).

Glen

just looked on census for eliza m hove but no results??

julie
i will do that now thanks so its the eliza birth then?

Andrea

Go for the Croydon birth as Croydon covers Mitcham

Julie