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31 Jul 2008 23:57 |
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I can't find Mary Ann any further back than 1851.
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31 Jul 2008 23:24 |
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Possibilities.
Deaths Jun 1852 Brown Charles Newbury 2c 132 or Deaths Mar 1858 BROWN Charles Newbury 2c 151
Births Dec 1852 Brown Mary Ann Newbury 2c 180
Deaths Mar 1853 Brown William Newbury 2c 170 or Deaths Mar 1856 BROWN William Newbury 2c 144
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31 Jul 2008 23:14 |
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Maybe 1851 is right.
1861 England Census Name: George Brown Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Midgham, Berkshire, England Civil Parish: Winchfield Ecclesiastical parish: Winchester County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Winchfield
Occupation: Carter boy
Registration district: Hartley Wintney Sub registration district: Hartley Wintney ED, institution, or vessel: 4b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Gregory 67 Flora Gregory 64 Thomas Gregory 27 George Brown 12 Son Charles is probably an ag lab/plough boy in Berkshire. 1861: Charles Brown abt 1848 Midgham, Berkshire, England Farm Servant, West Shefford, Berkshire
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Sarah
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31 Jul 2008 23:03 |
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Dear Ozi,
My head is spinning a bit at the moment. Im even more frustrated i can't get to the records office soon!!!
Regards Sarah
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31 Jul 2008 23:00 |
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??? I'm not at all certain with this one. It just doesn't seem to be right.
1851 England Census Name: Mary Ann Brown Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Charles Gender: Female Where born: Midgham, Berkshire, England Civil Parish: Midgham County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street address: Midgham
Occupation:
Registration district: Newbury Sub registration district: Thatcham ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 57 Household Members: Name Age Charles Brown 35 - Ag lab Mary Ann Brown 25 Charles Brown 4 George Brown 3 William Brown 11 Mo James Brown 66 - lodger; widower; ag lab
All born Midgham.
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31 Jul 2008 22:56 |
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Marriages Dec 1859 Brown Mary Ann Newbury 2c 471 Harris Henry Newbury 2c 471
Newbury is the reg'n district for midgham.
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31 Jul 2008 22:52 |
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1881 England Census Name: Sarah A. Harris Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Henry Mother's Name: Mary A. Gender: Female Where born: Winchfield, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Crudwell County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: Gipsy Lodge
Occupation: General Serv Registration district: Malmesbury Sub registration district: Malmesbury Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Harris 42 - Shepherd Ag Lab Mary A. Harris 59 Sarah A. Harris 20 John Harris 16 - ag lab; Stratfieldsay, Hampshire Elizabeth Harris 9 - scholar; Broad Hinton, Wiltshire
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31 Jul 2008 22:48 |
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1861 England Census Name: Sarah Ann Harriss Age: 4 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Henry Mother's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Female Where born: Winchfield, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Crondall Ecclesiastical parish: Crookham cum Ewshott County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Cookham Street
Registration district: Hartley Wintney Sub registration district: Odiham ED, institution, or vessel: 12d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 125 Household Members: Name Age Henry Harris 21 - shepherd; Baydon, Wiltshire Mary Ann Harris 35 - Midgham, Berkshire Mary Ann Brown 8 - daughter; Midgham, Berkshire Sarah Ann Harriss 4 Mo
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31 Jul 2008 22:44 |
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1871 England Census Name: Sarah A Harris Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Henry Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Female Where born: Winchfield, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Broad Hinton Town: Broad Hinton County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England
Street address: Hackpen[??] Cottage, Marlborough Rd
Occupation: scholar
Registration district: Marlborough Sub registration district: Marlborough ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 33 Household Members: Name Age Henry Harris 33 - shepherd; Baydon, Wiltshire Mary A Harris 46 - Midgham, Berkshire Sarah A Harris 10 Joseph Harris 8 - scholar; Stratfield Saye, Hampshire John Harris 6 - scholar; Stratfield Saye, Hampshire Thomas Maynord 23 - visitor; carpenter Mary A Brown 21 - daughter-in-law; unmarried; domestic servant; Midgham, Berkshire [usually means step-daughter]
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31 Jul 2008 22:34 |
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Proof through certs is a must if you want to be for real. You have enough info here.
Would you like me to try to follow Sarah Harris?
Ozi.
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31 Jul 2008 22:26 |
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1841 England Census Name: Charles Davis Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Male Where born: Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Bisley Hundred: Bisley County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address: Brown's Hill
Occupation: Mason Registration district: Stroud Sub registration district: Bisley Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charles Davis 25 Mary Davis 25 - wool carder George Davis 10 [image is 10, perhaps it's 10 months?] Anne Rogers 14 - independent [also with family] Marriages Sep 1839 BUTT Silas Stroud 11 466 >>>>Davis Charles Stroud 11 466 Gardner Eliza Stroud 11 466 LAMBERT Caroline Stroud 11 466 >>>>Rogers Mary Stoud 11 466 Rose George Stroud 11 466
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31 Jul 2008 22:25 |
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Thanks ever so much for your help. The only definate i have is Francis Edward on my Grandfathers marriage certificate. The rest has been guess work apart from names of his children. The reason i was chasing John is because it is a strong family name and i read somewhere it wasn't uncommen to make mistakes when marking down gender of a person. The other info is very interesting but you see why i need to get some info from the records office.
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31 Jul 2008 22:21 |
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Perhaps not a 2nd marriage, surely the poor couple didn't lose all those children?
1851 England Census Name: Charles Davis Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Bisley, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Bisley Ecclesiastical parish: Chalford County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address: Brown's Hill
Occupation: Mason
Registration district: Stroud Sub registration district: Stonehouse ED, institution, or vessel: 1j Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 42 Household Members: Name Age Charles Davis 34 Mary Davis 34 - at home George Davis 10 - works in button factory [so the sons probably are button turners in 1861] Edger Davis 8 - works in button factory Emma Davis 7 - scholar Felix Davis 5 - at home Authur Davis 2 - at home Levina Davis 1 Mo All born Bisley.
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31 Jul 2008 22:15 |
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This looks like a 2nd marriage to me.
1861 England Census Name: Frances Davis Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Son Father's Name: Charles Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Bisley, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Bisley Ecclesiastical parish: Chalford County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address: Brown's Hill
Occupation: Registration district: Stroud Sub registration district: Bisley ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Charles Davis 44 -Stone mason Mary Davis 44 - Domestic affairs Edgar Davis 18 - Button[??] Turner Emma Davis 17 - Silk Winder Felix Davis 16 - Button[??] Turner Charles Davis 8 - scholar Walter Davis 5 - scholar Frances Davis 2
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31 Jul 2008 22:11 |
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How about this one? The address fits.
1871 England Census Name: Frank Davis Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Son Father's Name: Charles Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Bisley, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Bisley Ecclesiastical parish: Chalford Town: Brownshill County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England
Street address: Brown's Hill
Occupation: scholar
Registration district: Stroud Sub registration district: Bisley ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 32 Household Members: Name Age Charles Davis 53 - Stone mason Mary Davis 53 Charles Davis 18 - labourer Walter Davis 15 - scholar Frank Davis 12 All born Bisley.
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31 Jul 2008 22:02 |
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As I said above, Frances is a daughter.
1861 England Census Name: Frances L Davis Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Bisley, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Bisley Ecclesiastical parish: Bisley County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address: France Lynch
Registration district: Stroud Sub registration district: Bisley ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 65 Household Members: Name Age John Davis 29 - Mason Sarah Davis 27 Frances L Davis 3 Elizabeth Davis 1 Mo
All born Bisley.
Possibly this one. Looking at census image the initial could be 'S'.
Births Mar 1858 Davis Frances Sarah Stroud 6a 281
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31 Jul 2008 21:45 |
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Are you sure about John & Sarah as their Frances is listed as a daughter, also in 1861.
1871 England Census Name: Frances Davis Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Bisley, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Bisley Ecclesiastical parish: Chalford Town: Chalford County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England
Street address: Copes Hill
Occupation: scholar
Registration district: Stroud Sub registration district: Bisley ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 18 Household Members: Name Age John Davis 61 - stone mason Sarah Davis 37 - silk thrower Frances Davis 13 Elizabeth Davis 10 - scholar
All born Bisley.
Next door. 1871 England Census Name: Sarah Harris Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Cambridgeshire, Gloucestershire, England [image has Cam, Goucestershire for both Lois & Sarah] Civil Parish: Bisley Ecclesiastical parish: Chalford Town: Chalford County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England
Street address: Copes Hill
Occupation: scholar
Registration district: Stroud Sub registration district: Bisley ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Lois Trotman 66 - Grocer's shop & governess Sarah Harris 13
& next to them.
1871 England Census Name: Emely M Davis Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Sister Gender: Female Where born: Bisley, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Bisley Ecclesiastical parish: Chalford Town: Chalford County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England
Street address: Copes Hill
Occupation: dresmaker
Registration district: Stroud Sub registration district: Bisley ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Frances Davis 18 - dressmaker Emely M Davis 16 Elizabeth Davis 14 - silk winder
All born Bisley
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31 Jul 2008 21:37 |
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Marriages Jun 1884 >>>>Davis Francis Edward Stroud 6a 605 Garey Joseph William Stroud 6a 605 >>>>HARRIS Sarah Annie Stroud 6a 605 MILLS Jemima Kezia Stroud 6a 605
Births Sep 1858 Davis Francis Edward Stroud 6a 242
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31 Jul 2008 21:33 |
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1891 England Census Name: Francis E Davis Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah A Gender: Male Where born: Bisley, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Oaksey Ecclesiastical parish: Oaksey Town: Oaksey County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: Church Farm Rd
Occupation: Mason's labourer Registration district: Malmesbury Sub registration district: Malmesbury Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Francis E Davis 32 Sarah A Davis 30 Mabel L Davis 6 Florence A Davis 3 Albert E Davis 1
Mabel born Bisley, other children Oaksey.
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31 Jul 2008 21:31 |
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This gentleman?
1901 England Census Name: Francis Edward Davis Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Annie Gender: Male Where born: Brounshill; Bisley, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Oaksey Ecclesiastical parish: Oaksey All Saints Town: Oaksey County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: Flintham
Occupation: Stone mason
Registration district: Malmesbury Sub registration district: Malmesbury Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 46 Household Members: Name Age Francis Edward Davis 42 Sarah Annie Davis 40 Florence Annie Davis 13 Albert Edward Davis 8 Charles Henry Davis 5 Walter Stanley Davis 2 All children born Oaksey
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