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Hi Gilda

I wonder if that's why Rosetta left for Australia, perhaps dad had remarried and she didn't get on with her new stepmum who would have been the same age as her!

Regards
LfW

PS you should be tucked up in bed now and I have to go out so I'll take another look tomorrow (headache permitting!!).

This could be either Henry Isaac:

Marriages Sep 1855 (>99%)
>>> Basire Henry Isaac Bethnal G 1c 677
Bright Henry James Bethnal Gn. 1c 677
Brockwell Louisa Bethnal G. 1c 677
>>> Crawshaw Emma Bethnal G. 1c 677


1871 census transcription details for: Old Castle St, Bethnal Green, Hackney
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10 Piece: 475 Folio: 47 Page: 22

Reg. District: Bethnal Green Sub District: Hackney Road
Enum. District: 6 Ecclesiastical District:
Parish: Bethnal Green City/Municipal Borough: Hackney
Address: Old Castle St, Bethnal Green, Hackney
County: London, Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation, Where Born
BASIRE, Henry J Head M 61 1810 Middlesex
BASIRE, Emma Wife F 35 1836 Middlesex
BASIRE, Henry A Son M 11 1860 Middlesex
BASIRE, Emma M Daughter F 6 1865 Berkshire

Probably the same as the 1841 as his occupation is Bird Cage Maker!!

And could this be Frances' husband (the first IGI birth parents)

Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 - Burial
Last name: BASIRE
First name(s): Isaac James
Date of burial: 13 September 1832
Place of burial: St John, Clerkenwell
Age at death: 67
Approximate year of birth: 1765
Address at death: Coppice Row
Record source: City of London Burials
Data provider: John Hanson and Monnica Stevens
Transcriptions © John Hanson and Monnica Stephens

More deaths: I think the surname is unusual enough for these probably to be connected.

Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 - Burial
Last name: BASIRE
First name(s): Frances Ann
Date of burial: 9 February 1835
Place of burial: St James, Clerkenwell
Age at death: Infant
Approximate year of birth: Not known
Address at death: Falcon Place
Record source: City of London Burials
Data provider: John Hanson and Monnica Stevens
Transcriptions © John Hanson and Monnica Stephens

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Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 - Burial
Last name: BASIRE
First name(s): James
Date of burial: April 1838
Place of burial: St Sepulchre
Age at death: 1 Year 5 Months
Approximate year of birth: 1837
Address at death: Not recorded
Record source: City of London Burials
Data provider: Cliff Webb
Transcriptions © Cliff Webb

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Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 - Burial
Last name: BASIRE
First name(s): John C.
Date of burial: August 1838
Place of burial: St Sepulchre
Age at death: 3 Years 3 Months
Approximate year of birth: 1835
Address at death: Not recorded
Record source: City of London Burials
Data provider: Cliff Webb
Transcriptions © Cliff Webb

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Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 - Burial
Last name: BASIRE
First name(s): Sarah
Date of burial: May 1827
Place of burial: St Sepulchre
Age at death: 2 Months
Approximate year of birth: 1827
Address at death: Not recorded
Record source: City of London Burials
Data provider: Cliff Webb
Transcriptions © Cliff Webb

Could this be the birth of Mary F in the 1841 census

Births Sep 1838 (>99%)
BASIRE Mary Ann Clerkenwell 3 55

This could be her death but no age given so can't be sure.

Deaths Dec 1845 (>99%)
BASIRE Mary Ann Islington 3 153

And this one with a spelling variation:

Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 - Burial
Last name: BOSIRE
First name(s): Frances Ann
Date of burial: 21 September 1845
Place of burial: Golden Lane
Age at death: 1 Year 1 Month
Approximate year of birth: 1844
Address at death: Aylesbury Place, Clerkenwell
Record source: City of London Burials
Data provider: John Hanson and Monnica Stevens
Transcriptions © John Hanson and Monnica Stephens

Matches this birth:

Births Sep 1844 (>99%)
Basire Frances Ann W London 2 232

Deaths Sep 1845 (92%)
BASIRE Frances Ann Clerkenwell 3 76

And these two don't know if they're connected:

Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 - Burial
Last name: BASIRE
First name(s): Susan
Date of burial: 20 February 1842
Place of burial: Golden Lane
Age at death: 1 Year 1 Month
Approximate year of birth: 1841
Address at death: 12 Elliotts Court, Old Bailey
Record source: City of London Burials
Data provider: John Hanson and Monnica Stevens
Transcriptions © John Hanson and Monnica Stephens

Can't see Susans birth but this is probably her death entry.

Deaths Mar 1842 (>99%)
BASIRE Susan W. London 2 186


Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 - Burial
Last name: BASIRE
First name(s): William
Date of burial: 8 September 1851
Place of burial: Golden Lane
Age at death: 4 Months
Approximate year of birth: 1851
Address at death: Summers Street, St Andrew
Record source: City of London Burials
Data provider: John Hanson and Monnica Stevens
Transcriptions © John Hanson and Monnica Stephens

Possible birth:

Births Jun 1851 (>99%)
BASIRE William Henry Holborn 2 147

Deaths Sep 1851 (>99%)
BASIRE William Holborn 2 85

Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 - Burial
Last name: BASIRE
First name(s): Frances
Date of burial: 14 November 1841
Place of burial: St James, Clerkenwell
Age at death: 80
Approximate year of birth: 1761
Address at death: Slade's Place
Record source: City of London Burials
Data provider: John Hanson and Monnica Stevens
Transcriptions © John Hanson and Monnica Stephens

Corresponding death:

Deaths Dec 1841 (>99%)
BASIRE Frances Clerkenwell 3 66

Sorry Gilda, I shouldn't be so quick to jump in :-) It makes a change here in the UK we're baking in the mid 20s and it's lovely (wont last though!!). To send a private message just click on the name (underlined in blue). It might be worth looking for the rest of the family as I can't see them in the 1851 census. I know you said Rosetta travelled alone but perhaps she was following them. I think Iv'e found Frances death (will post below)

Regards
LfW

Hi LFW !
NO NO NO your POSTS are definitely NOT INVISIBLE - It's just that I wanted to say a bit more to you FOR ALL the information you sent me, so I left it till last to send you a message back. I am only new at this and not that FAST !! And it is after 12.30 AM here - and believe it or not - it's our "wintertime" and it's quite nippy in these wee hours of the morning, so I should be tucked up by now. I'm always getting into trouble by the "better half" when he finds me up at some god-forsaken hour "trying to find my ancestors" !! It's alright for him being English he knows "his" history but "us Aussies are only a couple of hundred years old" and we virtually know nothing of our past "relatives" !!
Hope to hear from you again for any kind of help with this "ancestry" thing.
How can one "send messages" without putting an "email address" over this section ?
Keep in touch, eh?
Thanks again,
Gilda

Hi "Lost for Words" !!
Well, you were not with me - "lost for words" I mean !!
Many Many thanks for all that information, it is just great !!
It just HAS TO BE my Rosetta as her name is unusual to start with along with the Basire !!
And to see the other names of her parents' and even her father's mother is terrific.
Also the marriage of Henry Basire and Ann Giles is such an extra bonus.
Well, I do know that Rosetta came to Australia - as mentioned - to Sydney and about a year after she arrived she married my great grandfather William Mapstone and was the mother of my grandmother. (Seems a great distance "in time" that I could have a grandmother back so far (whom of course I never knew) but my father was very very much older than my mother when she married him. Sorry I'm "rambling" now !!) Anyway back to Rosetta - the MARRIAGE Records on the NSW Registry show NO PARENTS' names - or on her DEATH Records either. I have often wondered why she never ever mentioned or named them ?
Thanks again "L.F.W." I am very grateful to you.
Kindest regards,
Gilda

Hi Gilda

Sorry are my posts invisible :-(

Have you looked for a marriage or death in Australia, they often give details of parents.

Where in Australia did she settle?

Regards
LfW

Hi Kath,
Thank you for your message.
AND for the correct spelling BASIRE.
I have another message with ALL details of the whole FAMILY and it HAS TO BE RIGHT as ROSETTA BASIRE in itself is quite an unusual name.
Many thanks again,
Gilda

Hi Tania,
Thanks so much for all that - yes the "i" must mean that the Basore surname is actually Basire - and it must be all correct as I have another message from someone else with the same details except the surname spelling is correct as BASIRE.
It can ONLY be my ROSETTA as the whole name is unusal to start with ie ROSETTA BASIRE !!
And even though I am Australian my husband is English (been out here nearly 30 years though) and he was born in MIDDLESEX like Rosetta !!
Many many thanks again,
Gilda

Or:

HENRY ISAAC BASIRE Male

Event(s):
Birth: 17 SEP 1806
Christening: 29 SEP 1806 St Sepulchre, London, London, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JAMES BASIRE Family
Mother: FRANCES

Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C025651 1801 - 1812 0375001 Film 6903917 Film
C025651 1813 - 1820 0375002 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

Possible

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles
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HENRY ISAAC BASIRE
Male

Event(s):
Birth: 01 OCT 1809
Christening: 20 NOV 1809 St Sepulchre, London, London, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: ISAAC JAMES BASIRE Family
Mother: FRANCES

Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C025651 1801 - 1812 0375001 Film 6903917 Film
C025651 1813 - 1820 0375002 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

The address for the 1841 census is Upper Rosoman Street. Henry is a Bird Cage Manufacturer.

The image actually has the name spelt Basire.

Kath. x

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
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HENRY BASIRE Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: ANN GILES
Marriage: 05 AUG 1833 Saint Botolph Without Aldersgate, London, London, England

Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M022382 1754 - 1812 0374443 Film 6903850 Film
M022382 1813 - 1846 0374444 Film NONE
M022382 1846 - 1872 0374445 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

1841 census transcription details for: Rosoman Street, Upper, St James Clerkenwell, Finsbury
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 659 Book/Folio: 7/32 Page: 3

Reg. District: St James Clerkenwell Sub District: Amwell Clerkenwell
Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District:
Parish: St James Clerkenwell City/Municipal Borough: Finsbury
Address: Rosoman Street, Upper, St James Clerkenwell, Finsbury
County: Middlesex
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation, Where Born
BASIRE, Frances F 75 1766 Ireland
BASIRE, Henry M 30 1811 Middlesex
BASIRE, Ann F 25 1816 Middlesex
BASIRE, Rosetta F 6 1835 Middlesex
BASIRE, Charles M 4 1837 Middlesex
BASIRE, Mary F 3 1838 Middlesex
BASIRE, James M 1 1840 Middlesex

Have you looked for a marriage or death in Australia, they often give details of parents.

Where in Australia did she settle?

Regards
LfW