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29 Jul 2008 05:08 |
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Jeanette Thank you so much. You have been busy.. This now gives me a lot more avenues to look up and I thank you for all of your kindess and effort. I hope to get to the bottom of this family and find out if, any of them came to Australia. Looks like I will need to purchase a few certs. but it will be worth it in the end. You are wonderful Jan
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28 Jul 2008 14:14 |
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possible death of Elizabeth
Deaths Sep 1884 (>99%)
Critchley Elizabeth 53 Liverpool 8b 6
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28 Jul 2008 14:06 |
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1881 census
CRITCHLEY, Elizabeth Head Widow F 50 1831 Fish Dealer L'pool Lancashire BAMFORD, William A Son Single M 22 1859 Tobacconist L'pool Lancashire BAMFORD, Richard T Son Single M 18 1863 Labourer L'pool Lancashire
RG number:RG11 Piece:359 Folio:130 Page:34 Registration District: Liverpool Sub District: St Martin EnumerationDistrict: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Liverpool Municipal Borough: Address: 12 Burroughs Gardens, Liverpool County: Lancashire
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28 Jul 2008 13:37 |
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Marriages Dec 1853 (>99%)
Bamford William Liverpool 8b 138 Thomas Isabella Liverpool 8b 138
1861 England Census about Willm Bamford Name: Willm Bamford Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Isabella Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool Civil Parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: tobacco spinner
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Liverpool Sub registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 304 Household Members: Name Age
Isabella Bamford 28 Willm Bamford 30 Isabella Seffell 6 -niece Mary Seffell 32 - sister in law fish monger Mary Jane Seffell 3 -niece Mary Thomas 68 - mother in law View Original Record
Marriages Jun 1853 (>99%)
Stiffell James Liverpool 8b 484 Thomas Mary Liverpool 8b 484
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28 Jul 2008 13:00 |
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1851 England Census about John Bamford Name: John Bamford Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizaberth Gender: Male Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Liverpool Sub registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: 1f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 207 Household Members: Name Age Ellen 6 Mo Elizaberth Bamford 23 John Bamford 22 George Bumford 15 William Bumford 20 Isabella Thomas 17 - sister in law
Marriages Jun 1849 (>99%) Bamford John Liverpool 20 328 THOMAS Elizabeth Liverpool 20 328
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28 Jul 2008 12:26 |
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re- marriage of John's widow Elizabeth ?
Marriages Sep 1866 (>99%)
BAMFORD Elizabeth Liverpool 8b 13 Crutchley George J Liverpool 8b 13
1871 census
CRITCHLEY, Elor Head F 43 1828 Lancashire VIEW CRITCHLEY, Geo Step-Son M 15 1856 Lancashire VIEW BAMFORD, Jno Son M 15 1856 Lancashire VIEW BAMFORD, Wm Son M 12 1859 Lancashire VIEW BAMFORD, Elor Daughter F 12 1859 Lancashire VIEW BAMFORD, Thos Son M 9 1862 Lancashire VIEW STAFFELL, Mary Sister F 41 1830 Lancashire VIEW BAMFORD, Isabella Sister F 39 1832 Lancashire VIEW STIFFALL, Wm J* Son M 6 1865 Lancashire VIEW RAWLINSON, M E Daughter F 25 1846 Lancashire VIEW RAWLINSON, Thos Son-In-Law M 23 1848 Lancashire VIEW RAWLINSON, J B Son M 1 1870 Lancashire VIEW WILLIAMS, Sarah Lodger F 70 1801 Cheshire VIEW
RG number:RG10 Piece:3757 Folio:168 Page:35 Registration District: Liverpool Sub District: St Martin EnumerationDistrict: 19 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Liverpool Municipal Borough: Liverpool Address: Burrough's Gardens Court, Liverpool County: Lancashire
Deaths Sep 1868 (>99%)
Crutchley George 39 Liverpool 8b 37
image has Elizth for both mother and daughter son John is a tobacconist Elizabeth (mother) is a fish monger
Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%) BAMFORD Mary Ellen Liverpool 8b 252 Rawlinson Thomas Liverpool 8b 252
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28 Jul 2008 12:08 |
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Hi Jan
can't find the family together in 1871,will keep looking
this may be John's death
Deaths Mar 1865 (>99%)
BAMFORD John Liverpool 8b 170
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28 Jul 2008 11:37 |
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Jeanette Another big ask... Can you find the brother John & wife Elizabeth in the 1871 census and maybe 1881 census with their family? Jan
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28 Jul 2008 11:29 |
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Jeanette Thank you so much for the 1861 census information. I will need to look into this a little further.
Just hate to think that George went through so much in India and wanted so much to go to his brother James in Oz. I find it amazing that I can feel so much for someone I hadn't even met, who is related and didn't even know about but know of their history, through an amazing relative who thought to keep these letters from almost 150 years ago... So sad...I think I will need to buy this cert for the death of George Bamford, so I can finish this part of his life.... Jan
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28 Jul 2008 11:16 |
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Hi Jan
this may be brother John in 1861
BAMFORD, John Head Married M 32 1829 Tobacco Spinner Liverpool Lancashire VIEW BAMFORD, Elizabeth Wife Married F 32 1829 Wife Liverpool Lancashire VIEW BAMFORD, Mary E Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar Liverpool Lancashire VIEW BAMFORD, John F Son M 6 1855 Scholar Liverpool Lancashire VIEW BAMFORD, William A Son M 3 1858 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW BAMFORD, Elizabeth Daughter F 3 1858 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW TIZZARD, Ann Visitor Widow F 55 1806 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
- RG number:RG09 Piece:2692 Folio:43 Page:25 Registration District: Liverpool Sub District: 7 Islington EnumerationDistrict: 17 Ecclesiastical Parish: Christchurch Civil Parish: Liverpool Municipal Borough: Liverpool Address: 40, Clayton Street, Liverpool County: Lancashire
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28 Jul 2008 11:10 |
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Hi Ozibird
I dont know if this is him..guess it is another cert. I will have to buy? In his discharge papers from the army, his place of address, that he was going to, was 113 Scotland Rd, Liverpool... I just hope it isn't his death...he was in the Indian mutiny and went through so much..typical me...I was hoping for a happy ending.... Jan
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28 Jul 2008 07:45 |
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And this isn't him?
Deaths Dec 1866 BAMFORD George 31 Liverpool 8b 32
You KNOW he was at Scotland Rd or it's family legend?
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28 Jul 2008 01:41 |
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Jeanette
Thank you for the information on the 1861 census. That would be right...lol...just as I was getting closer another thing to throw me off the right track Thanks for all you help Jan
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27 Jul 2008 12:23 |
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Hi Jan
yes, it is from 1861, there are no names for 113.
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Jan
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27 Jul 2008 11:51 |
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Hi Jeanette,
Thank you so much for clarifying an easy mistake.
So am I to asume from your last entry, that the above information is from the 1861 census? I note you have 34 TOBACCONIST SHOP
I do know that George's occupation before he joined the army, was Tobacconist as was his father ,Thomas. So can you tell me any names from the 1861 census from 113 Scotland Rd Liverpool? thank you Jan
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27 Jul 2008 10:28 |
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This one was easy to find as entries included the numbers!!
Sched Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation, Disability Where Born Original census image 34 TOBACCONIST SHOP
RG number:RG 09 Piece:2652 Folio:6 Page:6 Registration District: Liverpool Sub District: 1 St Martin Enumeration District: 19 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Albans Civil Parish: Liverpool Municipal Borough: Liverpool Address: 113, Scotland Road, Liverpool County: Lancashire
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27 Jul 2008 10:14 |
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Hi Jan
first of all, I would like to apologise for giving you the wrong info yesterday. I stupidly thought when I found 112-118 as uninhabited that 113 was included. I had been on computer for a while ;-)
I have now found the correct address. It seems to cover 113,115 & 117.The entry has the following people, but still no George.
28 GWYNE, Ann Servant F 66 1805 Lancashire VIEW
28 EVANS, Hannah Servant F 16 1855 Caernarvonshire VIEW
28 FENTON, Fredk Servant M 27 1844 Yorkshire VIEW
28 GALLIE, Flora Servant F 20 1851 Scotland VIEW
28 FESTAM, Jas* Servant M 23 1848 Wales VIEW
28 WILLIAMS, Wm Servant M 19 1852 Flintshire VIEW
28 OWENS, Ebenezer Servant M 19 1852 Wales VIEW
28 SMITH, Joseph Servant M 18 1853 Cheshire VIEW
28 HUGHES, Philip Servant M 18 1853 Suffolk VIEW
28 JONES, Thomas Servant M 18 1853 Caernarvonshire VIEW
28 HANCOCK, Henry Servant M 23 1848 United States VIEW
RG number:RG10 Piece:3757 Folio:153 Page:6 Registration District: Liverpool Sub District: St Martin Enumeration District: 19 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Liverpool Municipal Borough: Liverpool Address: Scotland Road, Liverpool County: Lancashire
Margaret,
I don't know a quick way of finding the info and had to trawl through the entries for Scotland Road on FMP, perhaps you can advise me on the easy way?
Jeanette
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27 Jul 2008 06:36 |
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Jan said 113 Scotland Rd was uninhabited in 1871. The ref no she gave took me to the even side of the road. We will have to see if Jan can work out the odd side
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27 Jul 2008 02:21 |
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Hi Jeanette
I was wondering if you could have a look at 113 Scotland Rd, Liverpool in the 1861 census and see who was living there at that time, please Thank you Jan
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26 Jul 2008 12:19 |
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Hi Jan
I only have access to FMP and the passenger lists start from 1890.
I don't know where else the earlier ones can be found,perhaps someone else will know
Jeanette
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