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Linda

Linda Report 14 Jul 2008 19:42

Christine, yes i have Mary Martha's birth cert she was my great grandmother on my mothers side. details on cert is Mary Martha griffiths. 1883 mother:caroline julia griffiths formally Miller Father:Charles Henry Griffiths. Occupation was a Coastgard in Falmouth. Linda

Pam

Pam Report 14 Jul 2008 11:13

I think this is Caroline on the 1901 census

1901 England Census
about Caroline J Radmare
Name: Caroline J Radmare (Radmore?)
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Devonport, Devon, England

Civil Parish: East Stonehouse
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: East Stonehouse
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:
Registration district: East Stonehouse
Sub registration district: East Stonehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 204
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline J Radmare 40
James Radmare 31
James Radmare 7




Pam

Pam Report 14 Jul 2008 11:02

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1904 (>99%)
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DAVIES Thomas Richard E. Stonehouse 5b 671
Griffiths Mary Martha E.Stonehouse 5b 671
Richards Annie E. Stonehouse 5b 671
Vickery Vernon John E. Stonehouse 5b 671


Pam

Pam Report 14 Jul 2008 11:01

A possible for Mary Martha

1901 England Census
about Mary M M Griffiths
Name: Mary M M Griffiths
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Falmouth, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Littledean
Ecclesiastical parish: Little Dean St Ethelbert
Town: Littledean
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Sub registration district: East Dean
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: Household schedule number: 49
Household Members: Name Age
Mary M M Griffiths 18
Ada A Roskelly 53
Charles J Roskelly 54


Pam

Pam Report 14 Jul 2008 10:51

1901 England Census
about Bessie Griffiths
Name: Bessie Griffiths
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Falmouth, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Ilford
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Barkingside and Ilford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

Registration district: Romford
Sub registration district: Ilford
ED, institution, or vessel: Dr Barnardos Home
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1

Pam

Pam Report 14 Jul 2008 10:48

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Frances Beatrice Griffiths
Name: Frances Beatrice Griffiths
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 3
District: Falmouth
County: Cornwall
Volume: 5c
Page: 131

Pam

Pam Report 14 Jul 2008 09:34

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1895 (>99%)
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>>>>Griffiths Caroline Julia Falmouth 5c 299
>>>>Radmore James Falmouth 5c 299
Root Samuel Falmouth 5c 299
Welch Beatrice Mary E Falmouth 5c 299


Above 1901 entry for Caroline Griffiths is the wrong one.

Dea

Dea Report 14 Jul 2008 09:16

Did you note that the eldest - Ledia was born in Ireland !!

Perhaps the marriage took place there?

Dea x

OOOpps - Pam has just added that info above !

Pam

Pam Report 14 Jul 2008 09:08

1891 England Census
about Frances Beatrice Griffiths
Name: Frances Beatrice Griffiths
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Caroline J
Gender: Female
Where born: Mulberg Square; Falmouth

Civil Parish: Falmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Falmouth
Town: Falmouth
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address: 14 Beacon Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:
Registration district: Falmouth
Sub registration district: Falmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors:
Household Members: Name Age
Bessie Blanch Griffiths 3 b. Coastguard Station, Falmouth
Caroline J Griffiths 35 Widow Charwoman
Frances Beatrice Griffiths 2
Lidia Louisa Griffiths 8 b. Coastguard Station, Ireland
Mary Martha Griffiths 6 b. Coastguard Station, Falmouth

Also living at 14 Beacon Street:-

William Westcott 45 Boarder
Mary Anna Long 38 Wife (transcribed as Griffiths)
John James Roberts - Son 9 (transcribed as Griffiths)


Fair amount of mistranscription on this entry !!!!

Dea

Dea Report 14 Jul 2008 09:08

This would be them then on 1891:

Frances Beatrice Griffiths
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Caroline J
Gender: Female
Where born: Mulberg Square; Falmouth

Civil Parish: Falmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Falmouth
Town: Falmouth
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Falmouth
Sub registration district: Falmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Bessie Blanch Griffiths 3
Caroline J Griffiths 35
Frances Beatrice Griffiths 2
John James Griffiths 9 *mistranscribed - NOT Griffiths
Ledia Louisa Griffiths 8
Mary Anna Griffiths 38 *mistranscribed - NOT Griffiths !!
Mary Martha Griffiths 6
William Westcott 45

at 14 Beacon St. - Caroline is a widow!!!

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1834; Folio 61; Page 27; GSU roll: 6096944.

Source Information:

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 14 Jul 2008 09:07

Me too Christine!!!

It still doesn't add up though.

The 1901 census posted above does not have all the children and I believe I have traced that Caroline all the way back to her birth - parents James + Ann, and she was ALWAYS a 'Martin !!

Dea x

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 14 Jul 2008 09:01

I was looking in Devon not Cornwall so that's why I couldn't find them.

Christine

Pam

Pam Report 14 Jul 2008 08:48

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Falmouth births for Griffiths:

First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1882 (>99%)
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Griffiths Caroline Alice Falmouth 5c 183

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Births Sep 1883 (>99%)
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Griffiths Mary Martha Falmouth 5c 160

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Births Sep 1885 (>99%)
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Griffiths Hester Fanny Falmouth 5c 166

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Births Jun 1887 (>99%)
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Griffiths Bessy Falmouth 5c 162

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Births Mar 1889 (>99%)
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Griffiths Frances Beatrice Falmouth 5c 161





ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 14 Jul 2008 07:23

Do you have any of the children's birth certs?

I don't see any of them on Free BMD.

Do you mean you believe the Caroline birth reg is the correct one and when do you think she remarried?

Christine

Linda

Linda Report 13 Jul 2008 22:45

Mary martha griffiths 1885. Bessie griffiths abt1888.
then Frances bertrice 1889. ledia louisa griffiths 1883

***Rose Tea***

***Rose Tea*** Report 13 Jul 2008 22:28

what years do you have for there children?

Linda

Linda Report 13 Jul 2008 22:15

Hi i believe this is the same person thank you, but i think she remarried after Charles died or maybe divorced but i don't think there divorces then was there? Linda

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 13 Jul 2008 22:10

Birth reg...

Caroline Julia Miller
Year of Registration: 1854
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Stoke Damerel
County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 320

Devonport, Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
=======

His birth??

Charles Henry Griffiths
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Exeter
County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 101


Gerri x

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 13 Jul 2008 22:06

Is this the family in 1901?

1901 England Census
about Caroline Griffiths
Name: Caroline Griffiths
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles H
Gender: Female
Where born: Coryton, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Plymouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Plymouth
Sub registration district: Charles
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 246
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Griffiths 36
Charles H Griffiths 29
Francis C Griffiths 3
Flora Martin 28 servant


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2094; Folio: 59; Page: 33

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 13 Jul 2008 22:01

Are you sure of Carolines Surname? Could this be her 2nd Marriage maybe?

Found this marriage..

Marriages Jun 1897

Balsom Mary Plymouth 5b 572
>>>Griffiths Charles Henry H Plymouth 5b 572
>>>Martin Caroline Plymouth 5b 572
PIDGEON Walter William Plymouth 5b 572