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Well you can see I have not been on here for years, lost all of my log in details but have recovered them.
I am travelling around Aus and will be wandering in the Quirindi - Werris Creek area soon .. hoping I might find Henry and Jane's burial sites also Harold Henry.

Thank you all for your help and research. I am back on here after quite a few years - too much happening in my current life without wondering about past lives.
I was recently driving through the Werris Crek / Quirindi area of NSW and I started thinking about the whys etc about their lives.
I had forgotten about the things I had posted in the past and therefore your replies which I really appreciated.
I will have to start from scratch again and follow up all the leads you have sent me, maybe entering the names and dates into the family tree and working backward.
I had a lot of information from an elderly relative who has since passed away so have no idea whether it is factual or folklore
Once again, thankyou for your interest
Cheers Shirley

I can't see a marriage between Henry Cole and Jane Thomas in any UK records

They migrated too early for outgoing records to be online

Henry's brother William

Name: William Cole
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Birth Date: abt 1862
Marriage Date: 28 Feb 1887
Marriage Place: Rock, Worcestershire, England
Father: Herbert Cole
Spouse: Louisa Counley
Father: William Counley


1901
64, Cobden Street, Kidderminster, Kidderminster Borough, Worcestershire, England
William Cole Head Married Male 38 1863 Carpenter Hartlebury, Worcestershire, England
Louisa Cole Wife Married Female 38 1863 - Rock, Worcestershire, England
William Fredrick Cole Son Single Male 13 1888 - Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England
Leslie Townley Cole Son Single Male 4 1897 - Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England

1911
8 Park Butts Kidderminster, Kidderminster Borough, Worcestershire, England

William Cole Head Married Male 47 1864 Carpenter Hartlebury Worc
Louisa Cole Wife Married Female 47 1864 Tobacco shop Rock Worc
Leslie Cownley Cole Son Single Male 15 1896 Office boy Kidderminster Worc
Edith Harriet Booton Niece Single Female 13 1898 School girl Rock Worc
Frederick Booton Nephew - Male 7 1904 School boy Rock Worc

3 children born in marriage - 1 has died

Niece and nephew are on Louisa's side of the family

BOOTON, EDITH HARRIET (MMN) COWNLEY
GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in CLEOBURY MORTIMER Volume 06A Page 543

COLE, LESLIE COWNLEY COWNLEY
GRO Reference: 1896 S Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 06C Page 225

COLE, WILLIAM FREDERICK DOWNBY
GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 06C Page 223

COLE, EDITH LOUISA COWNLEY
GRO Reference: 1903 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 06C Page 232

Deaths Dec 1905 (>99%)
Cole Edith Louisa 2 Kidderminster 6c 114

1911 for the elder surviving son
Name: William Frederick Cole
Age in 1911: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: St Johns Kidderminster
Civil Parish: Kidderminster
Country: England
Street Address: 9 Park Butts Kidderminster
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Butcher


Name: William Frederick Cole
Region: Worcestershire
Residence Year: 1908
Publication Title: 1908 Kelly's Directory of Worcestershire
Occupation: Butcher
Street Address: 7 Park butts

Name: Leslie Cownley Cole
Death Date: 1 Jul 1973
Death Place: Willey Broseley Salop
Probate Date: 30 Jul 1973
Probate Registry: Sheffield

1939
27 Home Farm Willey Park, Much Wenlock, Wenlock M.B., Shropshire, England

Leslie C Cole 09 Jun 1898 Male Farm Manager Married 59 1
Edith Cole 07 Jul 1896 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 59 2
Robert L Cole 02 Feb 1923 Male Farm Assistant Single 59 3
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.

Marriages Mar 1921 (>99%)
COLE Leslie C Mills Cleobury M. 6a 1227
Mills Edith Cole Cleobury M. 6a 1227

Births Mar 1923 (>99%)
Cole Robert L Mills Worcester 6c 176

This MAY be relevant

Marriages Mar 1949 (>99%)
Cole Robert L Downes Bridgnorth 9a 209
Downes Florence M Cole Bridgnorth 9a 209



First name(s) Robert Leslie
Last name Cole
Gender Male
Birth day 2
Birth month 2
Birth year 1923
Death quarter 3
Death year 1999
District Bridgnorth
District number 7101
Register number 12A

You will need to look for the other children's births yourself on freebmd

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

THOMAS, JANE (MMN) VICKERS
GRO Reference: 1864 J Quarter in MADELEY Volume 06A Page 619

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

Re-posting marriage for Henry and Jane, first posted by Julcoe on 18 June 2008 at 02:16:

Marriages Jun 1885 (>99%)
Cole Harry Kidderminster 6c 287
THOMAS Jane Kidderminster 6c 287


Jane Thomas
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Jane Thomas
Gender: Female
Age: 21
Birth Date: 1864
Marriage Date: 23 May 1885
Marriage Place: St Mary'S, Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England
Father: Thomas Thomas
Spouse: Harry Cole
FHL Film Number: 435277
Reference ID: 37

Harry's father: Herbert Cole

Thanks AG - obviously I was looking for 'Henry', and hadn't trawled through all the old posts

Re Norman Percival Ayton -

in 2008 Julcoe posted this marriage:

Norman P A Ayton
in the Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Norman P A Ayton
Spouse Name: Sarah J P Cole
Marriage Date: 1909
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Waterloo, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1909
Registration Number: 12824



??? No other Aytons living with him in 1913:

Norman Percival Ayton
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Norman Percival Ayton
Gender: Male
Electoral Date: 1913
Electoral Place: Barcom, Paddington, New South Wales, Australia
Residence Address: 74 Goodhope-street
Occupation: Painter


A subsequent marriage ???

Norman P Aytom
in the Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Norman P Aytom
Spouse Name: Jeanette M Walters
Marriage Date: 1922
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1922
Registration Number: 9120


Norman Percival Ayton
in the Sydney, Australia, Anglican Parish Registers, 1814-2011
Name: Norman Percival Ayton, actor
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 37
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1885
Marriage Date: 8 Jul 1922
Marriage Place: Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Parish as it Appears: Surry Hills Flinders Street St Michael
Father: Herbert Percival Ayton, painter
Spouse: Jennette Maude Walters [ previously Johnson ]

No father's name given for Jennette, but in the "father's name" column it says Jennette Maude Johnson.
Don't know if that's her mother's name and she was born illegitimately, or if it's her own previous name put in by mistake.
In the column for father's occupation it says "blacksmith".

Marital status for both Norman and Jennette is "Divorced. Petitioner."

Norman Ayton
in the Australia, World War I Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: Norman Ayton
Age: 26
Birth Year: abt 1888
Birth Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Dossier Year Range: 1914-1920
Enlistment Place: Holsworthy, New South Wales
Spouse: Sarah Ayton

Occupation: painter.
Address: 6 Richard Ave., Newtown, Sydney.
Height: 5ft 5.5 ins.
Fair complexion, blue eyes, fair hair.

There's a Statutory Declaration dated 10 Sept 1915:

He declared:.

"a) that my wife having left me about two years ago, and I have not contributed anything for the last twelve months towards her support prior to my joining the Australian Imperial Forces.

b) and that I am about to prepair [ sic ] a legal separation order which when complete a copy will be forwarded to the Military Authorities."


A medical report dated 9 Aug 1915 says he was a scenic painter.
His disability was weakness of ankles, and varicocele of left testicle.
The disability [ the ankle weakness ] originated 2.5 years previously in Melbourne, when "turning a double somersault over a [something] wire at a pantomime & sprained both ankles"
with the result that he was (in 1915) "unable to walk properly".
The Board subsequently examined him and discharged him as unfit for Military Service because of the varicocele. No mention of the ankles.

His account of his wife having left him doesn't match this!

Norman Percival Ayton
in the New South Wales, Australia, Police Gazettes, 1854-1930
Name: Norman Percival Ayton
Birth Year: abt 1888
Age: 24
Event Place: Paddington, New South Wales, Australia
Event Type: Desertion
Publication Date: 11 Sep 1912
Page #: 365

PADDINGTON _
A warrant has been issued by the Paddington Bench for the arrest of Norman Percival Ayton or Bert Allen, charged with wife desertion.
He is 24 years of age, 5 ft 2 ins high, thin build, fair hair and complexion, blue eyes, clean shaved, crooked teeth in front; dressed in a dark or light [sac ?] suit and straw hat; a comedian; supposed to be travelling with the Lafayette Pantomine Company in Queensland.
Complainant: Sarah Ayton, 11 Hargrave Street, Paddington

Jean Florence Ayton
in the Sydney, Australia, Anglican Parish Registers, 1814-2011
Name: Jean Florence Ayton
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 18 Nov 1912
Baptism Date: 12 Jan 1913
Baptism Place: Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Parish as it Appears: St Michael, Surry Hills
Father: Norman Riewal Ayton
Mother: Sarah Ayton

Norman Ayton
in the New South Wales, Australia, Police Gazettes, 1854-1930
Name: Norman Ayton
Birth Year: abt 1888
Age: 26
Event Place: Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Event Type: Desertion
Publication Date: 21 Oct 1914
Page #: 507

NEWTOWN:
A warrant has been issued by the Children's Court Bench, for the arrest of Norman Ayton charged with child desertion. He is 26 years of age, 5ft 6 ins high, thin build, very fair complexion, thin features, clean shaved; dressed in a navy blue serge suit and black hard hat; a painter;. Believed to have gone to the country.

Notice of arrest after the 1912 warrant - but he got off, so Sarah must have tried again in 1914 with the child desertion charge.


Norman Percival Ayton
in the New South Wales, Australia, Police Gazettes, 1854-1930
Name: Norman Percival Ayton
[Bert Allen]
Event Place: New South Wales, Australia
Event Type: Desertion
Publication Date: 24 Sep 1913
Page #: 433
See Also Year: 1912
See Also Page: 365

Vide Police Gazette, 1912, page 365.
Norman Percival Ayton, or Bert Allen, charged on warrant with wife desertion, has been arrested by Constables Clark and McMurray, Sydney Police.
discharged. No prosecution.