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Carol
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9 May 2008 09:21 |
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Many, many thanks to all of you for your help. I can now put Matilda to rest in peace, as we have told her story...THANK YOU!
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Carol
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8 May 2008 21:53 |
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I have found out Matilda was not married before - it's definitely her born in Hanley 1872. Ta!
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Carol
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8 May 2008 21:50 |
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No birth certificates as yet
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8 May 2008 15:07 |
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Are you certain that matilda was married before??
1881
Matilda Toft Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Charles Mother's Name: Matilda Gender: Female Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent - Shelton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: 37 Newcastle Rd Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub registration district: Shelton ED, institution, or vessel: 23a Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Agnes Toft 20 Arthur Toft 9 Charles Toft 53 Edith Toft Fanny Toft 25 Harry Toft 5 Mary J. Toft 15 Matilda Toft 44 Matilda Toft 8 William Toft 18
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2726; Folio: 106; Page: 28; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341653.
Same family 1891 where somebody in their wisdom has suggested Billington as the surname but it is the name of Jane Toft's husband.
Matilda Toft [Matilda Billington] Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Relation: Daughter Parent's Name: Matilda Gender: Female Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: Shelton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub registration district: Shelton ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Emma Billington 3/12 James Billington 30 Maud Billington 2 Matilda James 22 Agnes Toft 30 Arthur Toft 26 Edith Toft 16 Harry Toft 15 Jane Toft 26 Matilda Toft 52 Matilda Toft 19 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2171; Folio 87; Page 12; GSU roll: 6097281.
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8 May 2008 14:10 |
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On the 1891 census someone has added the name Matilda Billington to Matilda Toft's name. That is not right. If you look at the original, it's her sister Jane who was married to James Billington and they had 2 children, Maud 2 and Emma 3 months.
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Joan
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8 May 2008 14:09 |
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That should read "Toft" as maiden name not Matilda. My apologies!
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Joan
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8 May 2008 14:06 |
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Jane Toft on the 1891 census is actually Jane Billington, wife of James. She is the daughter of Matilda Toft (age 52, Head, grocer). It appears that Matilda is her maiden name.
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8 May 2008 14:01 |
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I wonder if Josh's first marriage was to Ellen (previous post) and this was her death?
Deaths Dec 1888 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHALLEY Ellen 26 Wolstanton 6b 64
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Joan
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8 May 2008 14:01 |
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1891 England Census about Matilda Toft Name: Matilda Toft [Matilda Billington] Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Relation: Daughter Parent's Name: Matilda Gender: Female Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: Shelton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub registration district: Shelton ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Emma Billington 3/12 James Billington 30 Maud Billington 2 Matilda James 22 Agnes Toft 30 Arthur Toft 26 Edith Toft 16 Harry Toft 15 Jane Toft 26 Matilda Toft 52 Matilda Toft 19
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Joan
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8 May 2008 14:00 |
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Are you sure that Matilda was married before?
1891 England Census about Matilda Toft Name: Matilda Toft Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: David Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Female Where born: Tinkers Clough, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Tyldesley With Shakerley Ecclesiastical parish: St George Town: Tyldesley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Leigh Sub registration district: Atherton ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Annie Toft 10 David Toft 48 John Toft 8 Louis Toft 12 Mary A Toft 47 Matilda Toft 20
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8 May 2008 14:00 |
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Matilda Toft was single in 1891, age 19, born Hanley, daughter of Matida Toft, widow.
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8 May 2008 13:58 |
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Possible first marriage
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bannan Mary Wolstanton 6b 228 KIRWIN Patrick Wolstanton 6b 228 Symonds Ellen Wolstanton 6b 228 Whalley Joshua Wolstanton 6b 228
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8 May 2008 13:58 |
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1891 England Census about Joshua Whalley Name: Joshua Whalley Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Knutton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Wolstanton Ecclesiastical parish: Knutton St Mary Town: Knutton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Wolstanton Sub registration district: Wolstanton ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Eliza S Whalley 33 Joshua Whalley 29 Mary E Whalley 4 Ralph D Whalley 5 View Original Record
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Joan
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8 May 2008 13:57 |
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You should consider getting a copy of Matilda Whalley's death certificate for the name of of her father or the marriage certificate to find out her maiden name.
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8 May 2008 13:56 |
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Name: Joshua Whalley Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Knutton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Wolstanton Ecclesiastical parish: Knutton St Mary Town: Knutton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Wolstanton Sub registration district: Wolstanton ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Eliza S Whalley 33 - SISTER - Housekeeper Joshua Whalley 29 Mary E Whalley 4 Ralph D Whalley 5
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Joan
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8 May 2008 13:56 |
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There is this marriage?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conway James George Holborn 1b 1088 SMITH Matilda Holborn 1b 1088 Toft John Thomas Holborn 1b 1088 Turner Catherine Holborn 1b 1088
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8 May 2008 13:55 |
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According to the 1901 census your Joshua (mistranscribed Walley) was born 1862, Wolstanton, Staffs. Matilda was born 1872, Hanley, Staffs.
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8 May 2008 13:55 |
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Joshua whalley mar q1862 wolstanton vol 6b page 76
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8 May 2008 13:50 |
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1901 England Census about Matilda Walley Name: Matilda Walley Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: 1872 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Joshua Gender: Female Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: Penkhull St Thomas Town: Stoke Upon Trent County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Stoke upon Trent Sub registration district: Stoke upon Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 120 Household Members: Name Age Joshua Walley 39 Matilda Walley 29 Ralph A Walley 15 May E Walley 14 Joshua Walley 4 Edith M Walley 3 Reginald Walley 1 View Original Record
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Joan
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8 May 2008 13:50 |
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Could this be Joshua's first marriage?
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Joshua Whalley Name: Joshua Whalley Year of Registration: 1884 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Wolstanton County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 228
Mary Bannan 1884 Oct-Nov-Dec Wolstanton Staffordshire View Record Patrick Kirwin 1884 Oct-Nov-Dec Wolstanton Staffordshire View Record Ellen Symonds 1884 Oct-Nov-Dec Wolstanton Staffordshire View Record Joshua Whalley 1884 Oct-Nov-Dec Wolstanton Staffordshire
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