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Kathryn

I remembered your advice from the other day just after I clicked submit and lost my borders:-)

Thanks for info Katherine will look into it.
Cheers Shelma

Katherine, you've gone and done what I avoided doing!

Any great big long string of text in a post will extend the
borders of the entire thread beyond the reaches of the frame.

Here's what you can do to fix it.

Hit the "-" key -- the minus/hyphen key -- while
holding down the control key.
This will shrink the text on your monitor.
Do this until you can see the tiny little "edit"
in the lower right of your post above this one.

Click on edit and then break that url into two parts
by hitting "enter" somewhere around the "catalogld"
after the "?", I'd estimate.

Otherwise, nobody will be able to make sense of
this thread forever after!



Heh. You done it already. ;) The directions may be useful to someone else though, so I'll leave 'em!

Hi Shelma

The Vital Records CD is a bit hit and miss but it does sometimes have stuff which is not on the IGI. You can order it from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons). It costs $20 and the details can be found at http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?
catalogId=10151&storeId=10151&categoryId=13703&langId=-1&cg1=13701&cg2=&cg3
=&cg4=&cg5=

Hi Katherine

Thanks for your help also.This Vital Records Index CD must be very helpful where can you it from? gots lots more Irish to find Ha Ha!!

Maybe the BBC should add it to its summer season of entertainment. Never a repeat:-)

Katherine, don't we all just love ancestry and all its little foibles.
Angela

There are still the hours of fun trying to think of all the different ways ancestry may have transcribed what you believe to be a very simple name in the 1901 census:-p

Hi Shelma

I got the marriage from my Vital Records Index for the British Isles CD.

And I should probably say "you're welcome" finally ... kept forgetting.

You're welcome. ;)

Kathryn
your a star came up trumphs again! many thanks for your patience and all the tips you have given me.

Shelma

For Hugh Wallis's site -- you can start here:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm#PageTitle

I split up the other URL because long things make threads unreadable. That one should be okay.

Have a read of the explanation, and then click

"(Click here to skip this stuff and go to the country selection menu)"

The select Ireland, if that's what you want.

Then select your county -- Antrim. You'll be where I first sent you.

Go down the page to Belfast. It lists the batch numbers for that place that are in the IGI, and what periods they cover. You'll see that the time period for your John+Mary marriage isn't covered. That's why you won't find it in the IGI.

You can click on any of the batch numbers and search within them. This is a wonderful facility because

- you can search in a specific place

- you can search by a given name or a surname alone, or by one parent's name, or by date without a name at all

- you can tell whether what you're looking for is likely to be in the IGI at all, by the dates and places

Hope that works now.

Yes it is I'm so glad plucked up the courage to have a go!
Tried to have a look this site 'hughwallis' but so much on it can't find what I'm supposed to.When I get on where do I go from there?
Ahh newbies I hear you say!
Just want to thank you again for replying to me and giving up your time to help.
Cheers Shelma

Shelma! Isn't that amazing for one days' work??

Katherine has access to some secret source I don't know about I'm afraid. I'm sure she'll tell. I couldn't see a marriage on the IGI.

For tracing the family, like farther back? Search around the boards here for advice on Irish genealogy. Google IRISH GENEALOGY. Just don't ask me. ;) I've found a grx4 grfather, I think it is, shown in an early census as born in "Ireland". I have no plans to try to find that one at the moment... if you run into a Hugh Morrison on your travels, let me know, though.

You also get to trace the brother and sister forward now. That could be a little easier. The IGI generally won't be much use for those kinds of dates; you'll want the censuses and BMD registers.

You can try the IGI for tracing back further. Luck of the draw there!

Check the link I gave you with "hugh wallis" in it. It's the batch numbers for parishes in Co Antrim -- it will tell you what's in the IGI (and by default, what isn't).

Hi Claire
Yes Shelma and myself are both researching the same tree on the Donachie's with so many ways of spelling it, but i dont have all the certs at the mo and what i do have i have already posted to Shelma and via
hi Shelma you really got your teeth in this lot havent you

Samantha x

Hi Kathryn

I have looked at 1901 census and guess what you're right it is a very badly written Belfast.Looked again at IGI and found a brother for Elizabeth
Henry McDonnell b1867 Belfast Antrim
parents John McDonnell and Mary Irwin Batch No C701322.
Also a sister Hannah McDonald b1874 Renfrew in Scotland parents John McDonald &Mary Irvine C115641. I got Hannahs birth on Scotlands People.On that it gave parents marraige 23 April 1867(think we can allow them a few days) in guess where Belfast.Father also signed his name with an x as you said. On Eliz marraige cert Hannah was a witness further proof we have correct people.So I presume they came to Scotland between 1871-1874.
Where did other Katherine find marraige IGI? if it was am I doing something wrong as I can't seem to find it. Another question if you don't mind me asking, if I want to carry on tracing this family back should I stick to IGI? Shelma

Not offended, Shelma. Amused. ;)

I'm the master of wild theories -- and yours here isn't even wild. It's my own bunch who initiated me into the world of You Aren't Who You Think You Are. Not only are my Moncks mistranscribed everywhere they appear ... the first Mr. Monck was no Monck at all, and was born a Hill. It was coincidence piling on coincidence that generated the theory and then just kept on confirming it. If you're interested, a short version is here:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1032158
(with a link to a longer version)

-- just to get a taste of the kind of step by tiny step slogging these things sometimes take.


So hey, we aleady exhausted my Irish know-how! As I understand it, trying to find out the exact details of Ireland to Scotland or England migration is a pretty hopeless cause. All one can do is find records at both ends and try to pin down an approx time. Any trace of other family in the Scottish or English censuses, for example?

Again, somebody else may have something more intelligent to say on this than I. ;)

Don't pay out for any more Donachie marriages, Sam has already got them!

No I don't doubt you at all sorry if I offended you.It's the first time have used this way of communicating and was a bit nervous of even trying it. I should know better as the name Donachie I refer to has at least 10 different spellings that I have found so far. I will look at the census on Scotlands People and let you know how I get on. Can you offer any advice on how to trace when Elizabeth came to Scotland? Your time and help is greatly appreciated I can assure you.
Thanks again Shelma

Shelma, I have to agree with Kathryn, some of the transcription errors I have found on Ancestry make my hair curl.
You should never discount anything until you have prove positive that it is wrong.
My great great grandfather came to England from Co Mayo and his name was Ansbro and in the 1881 census he is down as Ainsbrough, but it is him as he was living with his in laws.
Angela