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Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 20 Apr 2008 15:38

I have been trying for approx 2 years now to find the birth reg of my great grandad.................. Henry / Harry Fellows born 1874 Birmingham
Have sent for a couple of cert's which weren't him and kept going back to ancestry to try and look again but have to date drawn a complete blank


Henry Fellows born 1874 in Birmingham - Also known as Harry, my great grandad
Father is Henry Fellows born 1849 in Birmingham
Sister is Emma Fellows born 1868 in Birmingham

The father ( Henry 1849 ) moved to Sheffield and Henry Junior and sister Emma came with him, Here Henry Senior re-married,

I cannot find the Mother of Henry Junior and Emma and it is the one link that I'm missing...............Any help appreciated as I feel another pair of eyes may help

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 20 Apr 2008 15:43

For ref


1881 England Census
about Henry Fellows
Name: Henry Fellows
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Son (Head) (Head)
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 3 House CT 3 Hollis Croft
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub registration district: North Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Fellows 13
Henry Fellows 6
Emma Hall 32
Frank Hall

In 1881 Henry and his sister are living with Emma Hall and her son, Emma later becomes their step mum, their father Henry (senior) born 1849 is in the workhouse in 1881 in Sheffield

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 20 Apr 2008 15:44

here two emma fellows born in dudley

Births Jun 1867 (>99%)
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Fellows Emma Dudley 6c 85

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Births Mar 1868 (>99%)
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Fellows Emma Dudley 6c 87

you didnt state a month of birth or quarter

shirl

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 20 Apr 2008 15:45

Thanks Shirley, will send for those two

Tried looking for Emma on the 1871 census with her father Henry but not had any luck at all

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 20 Apr 2008 15:49

Their father for ref in 1881

1881 England Census
about Henry Fellows
Name: Henry Fellows
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Pauper
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: "Sheffield Union Work House" Kelham St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Tin Plate Worker

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub registration district: North Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel: Sheffield Union Workhouse Kelham St

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 20 Apr 2008 15:55

link for workhouse in sheffield
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Sheffield/Sheffield.shtml

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 20 Apr 2008 15:57

his family are not there with him in the workhouse

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 20 Apr 2008 15:59

two henrys born 1876 not 1874

Births Jun 1876 (>99%)
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FELLOWS Henry W Bromwich 6b 901
FELLOWS Henry Thomas Solihull 6d 581

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 20 Apr 2008 16:01

here is one in 1873 near watford
Births Jun 1873 (>99%)
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Fellows Henry Frederick Watford 3a 369

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 20 Apr 2008 16:02

Shirely see the post above the workhouse one..........In 1881 his children are living with Emma Hall who later becomes their step mother

Those are the cert's that I sent for about two years ago and both were not my great grandad.

Joan

Joan Report 20 Apr 2008 16:04

Could this be the father Henry?

1871 England Census
about Henry Fellows
Name: Henry Fellows
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Bilston
Ecclesiastical parish: Ettingshall Holy Trinity
Town: Bilston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: LABORER OF IRON WORKS

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub registration district: Bilston
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Household schedule number: 135
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Fellows 22
Mary A Fellows 23
Sarah Fellows 6 months




Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 20 Apr 2008 16:07

Emma Cread Fellows not the Emma in my family.....she is with her in later census


Joan the one you have posted looks interesting, but not sure as Sarah doesn't appear with the family in 1881 and Emma isn't showing in this census

Joan

Joan Report 20 Apr 2008 16:09

Here's another possibility?

1871 England Census
about Emma Cread Fellows
Name: Emma Cread Fellows
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Granddaughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Aston, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Duddeston Cum Nechells
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image
Registration district: Aston
Sub registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 79
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Ann Bast 17
Emma Creed 47
Thomas Creed 46
Elizabeth Dent 14
Elizabeth Fellows 23
Emma Cread Fellows 1
William Edward Fellows 3
Elizabeth Newman 20




Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 20 Apr 2008 16:09

This is Henry the father of Emma and Henry ( junior ) in 1861 with his family

1861 England Census
about Henry Fellows
Name: Henry Fellows
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Birm, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Aston
Sub registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 134
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Fellows 7
Edwin Fellows 10
Elizabeth Fellows 44
Henry Fellows 12
John Fellows 42
Samuel Fellows 14
Thomas Fellows 16
Wellesley Fellows 5
William Fellows 18
William Fellows 12


Just need to locate him in 1871 to solve the mystery of who the mother of his children was

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 20 Apr 2008 16:12

Joan - the Cread one is not a connection, I bookmarked this one a while back and looked for the link but drew a blank with her due to her appearing later in census records

Emma Cread Fellows in 1881, the Emma in my tree is in Sheffield in 1881

1881 England Census
about Emma Creed Fellows
Name: Emma Creed Fellows
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Scholar
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Bromsgrove
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address: Highfield House School New Road
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Bromsgrove
Sub registration district: Bromsgrove
ED, institution, or vessel: 3

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 20 Apr 2008 16:20

for ref..................the twin brother of Henry 1849...

1871 England Census
about Wallace Fellows
Name: Wallace Fellows
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham
Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: Eldon Street
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 55
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Fellows 24
Arthur Fellows 7 months
Wallace Fellows 22
Wallace E Fellows 3


Joan

Joan Report 20 Apr 2008 16:35

Jessie, have you looked at this marriage? It's possible that Henry Sr. may have married his first wife between Emma and Henry. This happened in my family (husband was a mariner). My ancestor had 3 childen by her husband prior to the marriage. And then proceeded to have 5-6 more children.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Henry Fellows
Name: Henry Fellows
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Aston (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 353

Record
Julia Bedford 1873 Apr-May-Jun Aston (1837-1924) Warwickshire
View Record
George Duggan 1873 Apr-May-Jun Aston (1837-1924) Warwickshire
View Record
Henry Fellows 1873 Apr-May-Jun Aston (1837-1924) Warwickshire
View Record
Lucy Kinber 1873 Apr-May-Jun Aston (1837-1924) Warwickshire

and there's this possibility?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Philip Henry Fellows
Name: Philip Henry Fellows
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 206

Sarah Cunningham 1865 Jul-Aug-Sep Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire
View Record
Philip Henry Fellows 1865 Jul-Aug-Sep Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire
View Record
Samuel Peck 1865 Jul-Aug-Sep Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire
View Record
Ann Whitmore 1865 Jul-Aug-Sep Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire
View Record
Eliza Williams 1865 Jul-Aug-Sep Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 20 Apr 2008 16:57

Joan

I'll go and have a look at these ........

Part of me is begining to think i won't find a wife / Mother at all

Joan

Joan Report 20 Apr 2008 17:15

Found this birth record?

Births Mar 1875 (>99%)
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Fellows Ralph Harry Birmingham 6d 22

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 20 Apr 2008 17:18

Have you seen this one?

Births Dec 1874 (>99%)

Fellowes Henry John Birmingham 6d 50