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Wendy
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14 Apr 2008 03:36 |
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Any info on Emma Louise Piedot, Born about 1856. Lived in the Brighton area .Emma Married ?? Strudwick and they had Mabel. Thank you Wendy
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JaneyCanuck
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14 Apr 2008 04:31 |
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It's a piece of pie to find that marriage!
Go to
http://www.freebmd.org.uk
and search for a marriage using just the surnames, Piedot and Strudwick.
I'll let you do it so I don't spoil your fun of finding it -- you'll need to anyway, because you'll have to look at the original image (click on the page number and then on the spectacles icon beside each of their names) to make sure the numbers etc. have been correctly transcribed.
If you get the marriage certificate, it will give you the spouses' fathers' names and occupations.
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates
The only Emma Piedot birth at FreeBMD was in 1892. Could that have been a first married surname for Emma?
If you search for a marriage using only
surname: piedot spouse's given name: emma
you'll find an Emma marrying a Piedot in Brighton in 1855, and that looks like it might be her parents.
So suspecting mistranscription, we search for any Emma born in Brighton in 1856, and I'll give you this one. ;)
Births Mar 1856 (>99%) PEIDOT Emma Brighton 2b 200
That one, you do need to check the original, before ordering the certificate, to see whether it's wrong in the original or it's the transcription that's wrong.
Hope that helps!
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JaneyCanuck
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14 Apr 2008 04:35 |
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Heh! There was an Emma on the marriage page with Henry Piedot in 1855 (there you go), but she didn't marry him. ;)
He married the other bride on the page.
The 1861 census:
Name: Emma Piedot Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Henry J Mother's Name: Frances Gender: Female Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Brighton Town: Brighton County/Island: Sussex Country: England Registration district: Brighton Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 77
Arthur Piedot 8 Mo Edmund Piedot 2 Emma Piedot 5 Frances Piedot 36 Henry J Piedot 29
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SylviaInCanada
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14 Apr 2008 04:38 |
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Hi Wendy
nice to have an unusual name!!!
1861 Census
Name: Emma Piedot Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Henry J Mother's Name: Frances Gender: Female Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Brighton Town: Brighton County/Island: Sussex Country: England Registration district: Brighton Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 77 Household Members: Name Age Arthur Piedot 8 Mo Edmund Piedot 2 Emma Piedot 5 Frances Piedot 36 b.ca 1825, Brighton, Ironer Henry J Piedot 29 b.ca 1832, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, Ligth Porter
Address:- 40 Grosvenor Street, Brighton
sylvia
Hi Kath ~~~waves~~~~~
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SylviaInCanada
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14 Apr 2008 04:38 |
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snap!!
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JaneyCanuck
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14 Apr 2008 04:41 |
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nyah nyah!
Wendy needed to meet FreeBMD! But looking for mistranscriptions can be a bit tough for a newbie, so that one was for free. But I'm still gonna let her find the marriages for herself!
And kudos to us on Florence Eunice whatsit too, I gather. ;)
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SylviaInCanada
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14 Apr 2008 04:43 |
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so I gather!!
have you found emma in 1871??
sylvia
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SylviaInCanada
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14 Apr 2008 04:46 |
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roflol!!!
This is the fmaily ....... but no Emma!!!
1871 Census
Name: Henry J Ridot <<<<Piedot on image Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Bethnal Green, London, England Civil Parish: Brighton County/Island: Sussex Country: England
Registration district: Brighton Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 70 Household Members: Name Age Auther Ridot 10 Edmund Ridot 13 Henry J Ridot 39 Henry J Ridot 1 Jane Ridot 29 b.ca 1842, Patching, Sussex Maria S Waers 81 Lodger
Address:- 40 Grosvenor Street, Brighton
Cannot make out Henry's occupation on the image
sylvia
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SylviaInCanada
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14 Apr 2008 04:49 |
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Frances died, and Henry remarried 2 years later ...... but I'll let Wendy find these two bits of information on freebmd ......... they're transcribed properly!
sylvia
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SylviaInCanada
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14 Apr 2008 04:54 |
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Found Emma in 1871
1871 Census
Name: Emma Piesol <<<< Piedot on image Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Brighton Town: Brighton County/Island: Sussex Country: England Registration district: Brighton Sub-registration district: The Palace ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 81 Household Members: Name Age Amos Chatfield 26 Watch & Clock Maker Fatella Chatfield 26 Herbert Chatfield 1 Emma Piesol 15 Domestic Servant
Address:- 5 Bond Street, Brighton
sylvia
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SylviaInCanada
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14 Apr 2008 04:59 |
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They had more children than Mabel!!!
Mabel Strudwick 1881 Alfred J Strudwick 1883 Clara Strudwick 1884 Ada Strudwick 1886 Ellen Strudwick 1888 Sydney Strudwick 1890 Gertrude Strudwick 1892 Frank Strudwick 1895
Plus a granddaughter born 1900, Dorothy Strudwick ........ was this Mabel's daughter??
sylvia
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JaneyCanuck
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14 Apr 2008 05:07 |
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Ah, you left me in your dust.
I was off looking for Piedots in general, being curious about the origin of the name. I got sidetracked by Arthur Piedot -- in 1891, said (by Ancestry) to be a 70-year-old bigamist when he was actually a 30-year-old ordinary young married man.
Yet another instance of Ancestry assigning one of the hundreds of women (and their children) who were "wife" on the census record and whose husbands weren't at home to the nearest male head of household. My gr-grfather was assigned a spare wife and her kids in 1891, and my grmother's sister's husband's father, on my other side, was assigned a spare wife and kids that year too. It's an atrocity. You'd think the whole world was a Mormon.
So I didn't find those Piedots, but I found a fake one and fixed her so her own descendants may one day be able to find her!
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JaneyCanuck
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14 Apr 2008 05:18 |
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Ah, the 70-yr-old bigamist Arthur Piedot would be:
Auther Ridot
in the 1871.
If Wendy subscribes to Ancestry, she'll be wanting to fix a few of those.
If you don't, Wendy, you could PM me or Sylvia an email address (get an anonymous one at http://www.gmail.com) and we can make the corrections and include the contact info for you, so anybody related who then finds the people in the censuses can get in touch.
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SylviaInCanada
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14 Apr 2008 06:40 |
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Hi Kath
......... notice I didn't give Wendy Mr Strudwick's name, although I found him easily on the censuses? He did die before 1901.
I thought I would let Wendy have the fun of finding the information on freebmd ....... it is free and available for her.
Then I can post the censuses!
sleep tight, I'm just going to bed!!
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JaneyCanuck
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16 Apr 2008 03:13 |
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Too funny!!!
Sylvia -- I only mentioned Florence Eunice because it was when we'd recently tag-teamed, and here we were doing it again.
Did *you* realize that Florence Eunice also belonged to Wendy here??
I didn't! I find there are so many people with the same board names, I don't even try to remember whether one person is the same as another. Had no clue until I just got another of Wendy's lovely PMs, and I looked at the list of our correspondence ... and there was her lovely PM about Florence Eunice.
I'm now in the process of trying to instruct Wendy in how to post in her own danged threads. ;)
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SylviaInCanada
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16 Apr 2008 03:22 |
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No I didn't realize!
Do hope she finds her way onto here.
Wet snow forecast of Vancouver for Saturday!!
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Wendy
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16 Apr 2008 03:50 |
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Haha...Sylvia...It's Wendy (Edwards)
KathyrnB told me about posting my thread..I'm hoping that I'm doing this correctly...I'm having to take tiny baby steps with this...
Wendy
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JaneyCanuck
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16 Apr 2008 03:53 |
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There you are!
And I also just saw your nice note on the Success Stories board, when I was looking at that one about genealogy karma. ;)
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SylviaInCanada
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16 Apr 2008 04:18 |
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Hi Wendy
glad to see you made your way here
You'll soon get used to it .. and to the fact that Kathryn and I joke wih each other!!
Thank you very much for the note on the Success board!
sylvia
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