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My grandmother was orphaned in India, brought to scotland with Dr Barnados around 1920, she returned to india in her teens marrying my british grandfather and returning to England. All I have is her maiden name, and not sure of the spelling 'Philburn'

Can anyone advise me on where i could find any info for her, a long shot i know, i always seem to draw a blank with her. I know she was the youngest of what is thought to be 15 children.

Many thanks
Debby xxxx

What was your grandmother's christian name? What was your grandfather's name and when, approximately, did they marry? If you don't know the marriage date, approximately when was their eldest child born?

do you know when your grandmother was born, or roughly how old she was when she was orphaned and/or brought to Scotland?



sylvia

Thank you for your replies,

Christian names were Margeret Magdeline
D.O.B 21st April 1913

Don't know when she married my grandfather JOHN LEON BARRON D.O.B. 25th December 1910 but i know they met whilst he was serving in India with the British army.

Their eldest child was born in approx 1939.

We believe she was brought to Scotland With Dr Barnados when she was about 4 years old, returning to India to work as a governess in her teens.
She returned to London, Tottenham to be exact (where my grandfather was born) to marry him, i remember her telling the story of her travelling alone by boat.
Also just remembered her story of a large earthquake in India that she experienced.

Also know that there is a possiblity that she was orphaned along with a cousin, his name being Herbert. Dont know if this was a real family connection or if they just 'found' each other within Dr barnados.

Many thanks
Debby xxxx

just checked through my info, I have a list of family stories and memories, it would seem Margeret and John met in Delhi India. They were back in london for the outbreak of WW2

xxxx

I've checked 1938, and the first 3 quarters of 1937 but now ancestry seems to have seized up and won't do any more searches for me!



sylvia

now I can't even get into ancestry!!

I've now checked 1939 and the last quarter of 1937 in the Complete Index

Nothing


sylvia

Checked 1936

no John L Barron found


sylvia

I do have lots of info on John barron, birthplace, parents grandparents, but have never found any info linking him to my nan margeret, e.g marriage.
John stayed in the army till his later years and they travelled around alot i know, but they began their married life with his mother Rose nee grout in Seven Sisters Rd Tottenham East London.
I have often questioned if they married after the birth of my uncle who was born approx 1939, don't know why i can only put it down to gut feeling.
xxxxxxx

just checked 1941 and 1942 ....no luck looks like no ones checked 1940 will go and do that,



Nicky

what's your uncle's name?

maybe if we can find his birth registration, and you get his birth certificate ............ that could help solve some of the problem!


sylvia

Found a John L Barron marriage Mar.qtr 1940 in Durham, but bride was Elizabeth Barnes.......rest of the year .....no matches.



Nicky

Uncles name is Brian Barron, i think born in Southend or Heybridge Maldon both in Essex.

Hope this is some help

Thank you xxx

Are you sure the name is spelt Margeret Magdeline?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Margaret Magdalene Barron
Name: Margaret Magdalene Barron
Birth Date: 21 Apr 1913
Death Registration Month/Year: Sep 1987
Age at death (estimated): 74
Registration district: Braintree
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 1367

Rose

so they did get married in India!

great find Margaret.

I found the birth of a Fay M Barron, mmn Philben, Edmonton, Mar quarter 1939, vol 3a p. 1266

Just wondering if this is a connection?


sylvia

Brian W Barron, mmn Philbin, registered Hackney, September quarter 1937, vol 1b p. 499


sylvia

Looking at the various spellings of her name, makes me wonder about this birth registration?????


Births Mar 1912 (>99%)

Philbin Margaret Burke Keighley 9a 301



It's a year earlier than you have as her birth date, but .............


sylvia

What about your uncle Brian? Is he still alive? I don't see a death for him on Ancestry.

Rose