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I have Richard Wingrove Corby born 18 August 1889 Newcastle.. (He emigrated to Australia in 1923). As I had his exact date of birth I was able to look on the front page of genes where they list the census years and input his name, year of birth etc. and only one came up that matched. I was then given the details by a member on here. They are: 71 Tamworth Road, Elswick, Newcastle - John Corby 37, Jane 25, Rebecca 5, John 4, Richard 1 and Mary Shepherd 17 (sister in law). I was highly delighted. Not only had I got his fathers name but his wife's surname as well. I have the discs for 1881 and grabbed them quick to follow up on this BUT whichever person I tried to follow up on just did not help. I could not locate MaryShepherd (who would have been 7) , I found a Jane as a servant, could not find father John Corby who would have been abt 27 so I am at a loss. How do I now locate either John Corby or his wife's Shepherd family. I can only think that perhaps some of them would show on 1901 census when they would be John 47, Jane 35, Rebecca 15, John 14 and Richard 11. Has anyone any other brilliant ideas as to how I solve this ? Thanks you.

Could this be Rebecca on 1901 ?

Name: Rebecca Corby
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne

Civil Parish: St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Newcastle On Tyne
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 146
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Balton 23
Mary Bindley 52
Mary Ethel Bindley 30
Sarah Clasper 15
Rebecca Corby 17
Mary Annie Kettle 45
Charles Laughton 36
Hugh St Clair Peel 22
William Roden Orde 33
Cyril Fredrick Tratcher 21

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Hi - it looks as though the children were orphaned by 1901.

On the 1901 census there is Rebecca working as a servant:

Name: Rebecca Corby
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne

Civil Parish: St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Newcastle On Tyne
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England


and Richard Corby is in a Boys Orphanage Institution at St Andrews Northumberland:

Name: Richd Corboy
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: South Shields, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Jesmond
Ecclesiastical parish: Jesmond Clayton Memorial
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Will see if I can find the others ...

Athena

I think this might be John Corby Jnr - again, he is in some kind of institution - the census lists him as a "Boy in Training":

Name: Jno Corby
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Boy
Gender: Male
Where born: Newcastle, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: North Shields
Ecclesiastical parish: Tynemouth St Peter
Town: North Shields
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England


Athena

This is likely to be Jane, the mother's death entry:

Name: Jane Corby
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 37
District: Tynemouth
County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 171

Thank you very much Laptop Dancer and Athena. How sad for those youngsters. That's got me wondering now what disease was rampant at that time. Gosh I do feel sorry for them.

...and their father, John Corby's death:

Name: John Corby
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 45
District: Newcastle Upon Tyne
County: Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10b
Page: 47 (

Yes, very sad for them to lose both parents within a couple of years of each other...

Athena

looks like Johns death the age seem consistet with being 37 in 1891

Name: John Corby
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 45
District: Newcastle Upon Tyne
County: Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10b
Page: 47 (click to see others on page

I appreciate your help. However, this has now prevented me from getting any further back to find John Snr's parents. What a blow. Still, these things happen.

Margaret, doesn't necessarily mean there was some sort of epidemic at the time. We all have instances of deaths occuring in families at same time. If one got an illness then others in household would. There was no Boots the Chemist then !

Margaret

Have tried searching back beyond the 1891 census for you - the 1861 census was interesting:

1861 - 43 George St, Westgate, Newcastle

Joseph Corby, H, 35, factory labourer
Rebecca, wife, 31
Mary, dau, 11
Ellen, dau 9
John, son, 7
Elizabeth, dau 5
Rebecca, dau 3
Jane, dau 1

Reason this entry stuck out was the fact that there is a son named John and a mother and sister called Rebecca.

That would explain why John named his eldest child Rebecca (well, it's the normal thing for them to have done back then, naming after parents).

So, worthwhile making a note of this info for your files.

Regards

Athena

Too true Laptop Dancer and when you think of their living conditions, it is no wonder they passed illnesses on to eac h other. Thanks for your reply.

I can only find one Corby in Newcastle in 1851 !

Name: Robt Corby
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Patient
Gender: Male
Where born: Gateshead, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Newcastle Upon Tyne St John
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas
ED, institution, or vessel: Newcastle Infirmary
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Alexander 23
Geo Allan 52
Ann Archer 17
Dorothy Atkinson 45
Mary Bailes 21
Mary Bailey 28
Peter Bareley 21
Henry Barns 17
Jos Barrett 50
John Bell 33
Jane Blach 12
Jas Blach 39
Robt Bonnan 30
Amt Borritt 20
High Bottel 26
Sarah Boyd 43
Hannah Brown 17
Jane Brown 27
Leal Cable 38
Eliz Caton 28
David Clark 59
Philip Cochram 17
Hugh Coffin 16
Robt Comer 47
John Conolly 58
Margt Cook 19
Jane Cooper 62
Wm Cooper 24
Robt Corby 33
Eliz Coulson 39
Isacc Crepwell 25
Philip Cuningham 36
John Currie 60
Jas Daley 12
Wm Davidson 30
John Docherty 24
Wm Docherty 19
Margt Dodds 30
Iseb Donaldson 75
Mary A Donaldson 50
Wm Douglass 26
Duffey 60
Wm Duhesdale 22
Ann Dunbar 24
Edward Egan 26
Mary A Faris 19
Henry Fishan 19
Ed Fleming 34
Jos Forrest 43
Gaby 36
Peter Garland 36
Jas Gibbin 35
Margt Gibson 17
John Glass 33
John Gordan 17
John M Gowan 29
Cath Grey 22
Mary Greyson 30
Grieves 30
Wm Halliday 21
Jacob Harbottle 31
Wm Harrison 24
Mary Hart 19
Mary A Headlam 21
Wm Henry 45
Ann Heppel 29
Rich Hepple 30
Mary Higgins 10
Robt Hobson 60
Christi Hodson 35
Hogg 63
Paul Horner 16
John Hughes 56
Margt Hunter 20
Jas Huntress 29
Wm Hush 16
Andrew Johnson 17
John Jones 37
John Judge 40
Kelly 16
Henry Kelly 24
Jas Kelly 24
Eliz Kent 51
Geo Kent 19
Charlton Kewride 16
Harriett Kier 46
Peter Kirgan 25
Jane Lamb 19
Wm Lee 17
Wm Leighton 51
Jas Leonard 62
John Lishman 59
Timothy Lister 60
John Lowrey 51
Cath Madden 20
Margt Malasey 31
Moen Marham 25
John Marron 22
Andrew Martin 25
Margt Matoney 56
Gomerly Matthews 23
Jene Mc Cabe 26
Hugh Mc Carty 24
John McDade 62
John Mc Dermott 23
Robt Mc Donald 47
Ann Mc Gill 25
McGrady 6
Peter Mc Gregon 30
Alder McGrogan 29
Pat McMains 19
Mc Pherson 36
John Mc Sham 32
Catte Miller 51
Wm Miller 22
Dorothy Mills 35
John Milson 34
Mary Mine 14
John Monro 16
Ellen Mullen 25
Mary Mur 35
Peter Murray 36
Jane Mustard 68
Margt Natson 50
Ann Nerner 21
Mary Newham 18
Wm Newham 51
Eliz Newton 58
Richd Newton 61
John Nicholson 13
Jane Nilson 17
Margt Nixon 32
Richd Nixon 22
Gustav O Berg 26
Jas Paston 18
Matts Paulen 31
Peter Peron 34
Michl D Poryan 25
Wm Prince 20
Margaret Purdy 37
Ann Queen 22
Margt Raggett 32
Raywood 27
Michl Rebely 28
Wm Reed 90
Jane Remele 61
Ander Riainghan 67
John Ridley 40
Mary A Ridley 29
John Robin 22
Geo Robinson 21
Mary Robison 25
Eliz Robson 20
Joshua Robson 39
An Romley 19
Mata Ross 22
Susan Sansom 18
Elizth Savage 46
Jane Savage 21
Dorothy E Scott 30
Henry Shephard 25
John Sheridan 25
Mary Sheridan 22
Simpson 27
John Smith 43
Wm Smith 19
John Soberg 66
John Stevens 44
Ann Stoddart 35
Stokes 28
Jane Taylor 17
Mar Taylor 34
Ann Thompson 20
Robt Thompson 25
John Timlay 40
Isaac Timperley 26
Robt Timperley 40
Jane Urry 37
Isab Wallace 24
Margaret Walson 31
Bridget Wardle 25
Cath Watson 20
John Watson 8
John Waugh 21
Francis Widd 54
Mary Wilkerson 42
Peter William 25
John Williams 33
Wm Wilson 51
Eliz Wylie 28
Mary Yalbyher 16
Peter Young 29

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there was lots of TB at that time that was very contagious

Further to that, I would suggest ordering the following MARRIAGE cert for John and Jane. That way it will confirm who his father was - and then you will know for sure whether it was Joseph or someone else.

Name: John Corby
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Newcastle Upon Tyne
County: Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10b
Page: 190 (

Jane Shepherd is on same page.

Hope that all helps - you should be well on your way with all that - and there is definitely no brick wall here at the moment, so you can sigh with relief :)

Regards - Athena

Athena - many many thanks for that additional information. I agree with you regarding the names, it certainly tio my mind looks like the right family. You have been wonderful.

Thanks also Athena for the marriage details. I will indeed send for that certificate to authenticate what we believe to be the true facts. Your efforts are much appreciated.

You're very welcome, Margaret. Quite enjoyed it!

Take care and all the best - Athena

This could be Jane in 1871, but when you get her marriage cert it should confirm it or not
Jane Shepherd
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Richard
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne

Civil Parish: St Nicholas
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
Town: Newcastle Upon Tyne
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 95
Household Members: Name Age
George Shepherd 10
Isabella Shepherd 3
Jane Shepherd 6
Mary Shepherd 35
Richard Shepherd 35
Richard Shepherd 13

Ann