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Thanks Vera

Archie says thanks for the kind words - he has strained his shoulder and is on anti inflammatories for the next week - doesn't seem to be slowing him down however.

Thanks again Mxxx

Hi Maria,
Glad I could help....but how frustrating...I would be very grateful to hear if you find anything else.

Hope your hound is alright .


Best Wishes.

Regards Vera

Thanks for trying Vera - you've given me some extra children I didn't have which is really exciting.

I'll give you a shout if I find out anything further - I wish she had been the professional singer - that could have been really interesting!

Thanks again for all your time.

Best wishes

Maria

Hi Maria,
Have tried to find John the father in 1881 but no luck.

Regards Vera

Dear Vera

Sorry for the delay in replying - I have been to the vets with the dog.

Yes funny John isn't with family in 1881 - wife Elizabeth is listed as head - but he didn't die until 1902.

Info on Sarah came from GR - click on name and get connections to census and other people's trees.

Perhaps she was with her father in 1881? On Mars!!

Thanks again Vera for all your help.

Best wishes

Maria

Hi Maria,
Found the family in 1891 under Morley
John Morley
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Greengate
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Fitzgerald 45
William Fitzgerald 42
Elizabeth Lewis 23
Thomas Lewis 21
Claton McNulthy 29
Adam Moran 49
Albert Morley 9
Edwin Morley 7
Elizabeth Morley 50
Hanney Morley 15
James Morley 17
John Morley 59
John Morley 11
Sarah Morley 19
Sophia Morley 13


But still not Sarah born Macclesfield....the Sarah Jane married in 1896 to a Roger K Brown.

Regards Vera

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Hi Maria,
Where did you get the details of Sarah Mobey born 1877 Macclesfield ?

Regards Vera

Hi Alli,
Already tried the Sarah with Bertha for sister unfortunately not the one.
Hope you don't mind me telling you.
:-)

Regards Vera

Hi,
1901 census for Sarah Alice Mobey c1877 Macclesfield. Daughter of James & Emily. Older sister Bertha Catherine. Address 55 Park Green. Occupation is professional singer.

Sarah A c 1878 Oldham wife of Frederick W Mobey no occupation recorded address Brierly street.

Hi Maria
,Have found Sarah Janes birth in 1872 in Salford....but nothing for Sarah 1877 Macclesfield.....except the Sarah Alice.

It is so strange she is not on the 1881 census with her parent, her dad isn't there..


Regards Vera

Hi Maria,

Just for ref.,

1871
Lydia Moby
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Congleton, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Greengate
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 185
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Kay 18
Sarah Kay 17
Elizabeth Moby 25
John Moby 31
Lydia Moby 3
Thomas R Moby 1

Regards Vera

1871 census
14 Bk. Silk St., Salford, Lancashire
John Moby, head, 31, labourer machinist, born Utoxeter Notts
Elizabeth, wife, 25, born Bolton, Lancs
Lydia, dau, 3
Thomas R., son, 1
Plus 2 lodgers.
Children born Congleton.

Dear Vera

Lydia was born 1867 in Congleton, Cheshire.

Best wishes

Maria

Maria,
When was Lydia born?

Regards Vera

Hi Maria,

For reference
1881
Name: Sarah Jane Mobley
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Broughton in Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 31 Princess St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Broughton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Hough 51
Mary Hough 72
Elizabeth Mobley 40
Henry Mobley 5
James Mobley 7
John Mobley 8 months
Sarah Jane Mobley 8
Sophia Mobley 3


Regards Vera

Dear Margaret

Yes I have the right parents and the rest of the family.

The eldest daughter Lydia was born In Congleton, Cheshire as was her younger brother Thomas R who only lived to three!!

The rest of the family were born in Salford, Lancs but bearing in mind how much birthplaces can vary from census to census I thought it worth checking the Macclesfield Sarah just in case she'd got her birth place wrong, also that the family had lived in Cheshire before.

Thanks for your interest Margaret.


Best wishes

Maria

Maria, on the 1881 census that you quote there are children ranging in age from 8 months to 8 years and they were all born Salford, Lancashire. Why would your Sarah be born Macclesfield, Cheshire?

I'm a little confused here. Maria. The one that Vera found was born the right time, right place and she was a professional singer. Just too much of a coincidence for my liking. Are you sure that you've got the right parents?

Dear Vera

Sarah Mobey was born in 1877 father John Mobey mother Elizabeth Hough.

She also had an elder sister Sarah Jane born c. 1872 (not very helpful for genealogists!!)

The 1881 census has them as Mobley (on familyhistory online) and Sarah's elder sister is listed as a scholar aged 8.

ref RG11/3952 Folio 94 Page 33 FHL film no. 1341944

I can't find any reference to her on freebmd or the 1881 census under either Mobey or Mobley and I am just curious as to what happened to her.

Thanks for your interest Vera, it's very much appreciated.

best wishes

Maria