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Carol
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28 Feb 2008 20:38 |
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my gt grandmother was listed on 1881 census living in hackney but we are not sure whether she originally came from kilkenny in ireland. she married arthur dunkley. any info would be gratefully recieved thanks carol
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Ozibird
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28 Feb 2008 20:41 |
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Is this the one you mean?
1881 England Census Name: Emma Rawlings Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Alice Gender: Female Where born: Hackney, Ireland Civil Parish: St John Hackney County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 406 Mare Street Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: House Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: West Hackney ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ellen Brown 29 Hannah Browning 15 Charlotte Gibey 21 Alfred Rawlings 25 Alice Rawlings 56 Emma Rawlings 23 Mary Rawlings 26 William Rawlings 21 According to the image, mother is born in Armagh, Ireland & all children born in Hackney.
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Ozibird
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28 Feb 2008 20:44 |
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1861 England Census Name: Emma Rawlings Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Joseph S Mother's Name: Alice Gender: Female Where born: Hackney, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Hackney St John Ecclesiastical parish: Hackney County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: 16 Church Street
Occupation:
Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: Hackney ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 20 Household Members: Name Age Emma Bothersyd 17 - servant Mary Creath 21 - Relative; Cavan, Ireland Elizabeth Drake 21 - servant Alfred Rawlings 5 Alice Rawlings 35 - Armagh, Ireland Emma Rawlings 3 Henry Rawlings 4 Joseph S Rawlings 48 - oil & colourman; Fredington, Warwickshire Mary Rawlings 6 William Rawlings 1 Frances Woodward 17 - shopman Colour Man - Mixed textile dyes
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Carol
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28 Feb 2008 20:56 |
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wow thanks oz bird. yes this sounds like her. i knew her mum was alice but not her fathers name. sorry to ask this but do we know where alices husband came from
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Carol
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28 Feb 2008 20:58 |
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does the census mean warwickshire?? and also who alices father was
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Ozibird
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28 Feb 2008 21:46 |
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Possible, as Alfred is born 1855.
Marriages Jun 1853 PIERSON Alice * 3a 291 Rawlings Joseph Stephan Hertford 3a 291
Births Dec 1855 Rawlings Alfred Hackney 1b 293
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Ozibird
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28 Feb 2008 21:54 |
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1851 England Census Name: Alice Pearson Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Armagh, Ireland Civil Parish: Hertford All Saints Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester Town: Hertford County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street address: Market Place
Occupation: Draper's assistant
Registration district: Hertford Sub-registration district: Watton
Working for a William Pollard, draper & slopseller.
Slopseller 1) Slopshop keeper - readymade clothes
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Ozibird
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28 Feb 2008 21:59 |
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Can't find Alice in 1841 so maybe she came from Ireland as an adult.
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Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)
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28 Feb 2008 22:05 |
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Check alternative spellings. I've come across a Rollings family who spend half their time being Rawlings - so I expect the same happens in reverse!
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Ozibird
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28 Feb 2008 22:23 |
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Still can't find Joseph before 1861.
Emma is in a large school in Croydon in 1871; Friends School which comes after 35 Park Lane.
1871 England Census Name: Emma Rawlings Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Scholar Gender: Female Where born: Hackney, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Croydon Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Croydon County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address:
Occupation: scholar
Registration district: Croydon Sub-registration district: Croydon
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Ozibird
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28 Feb 2008 22:25 |
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Got him, didn't think of Josh.
1871 England Census Name: Josh Shephard Rowlings Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Alice Gender: Male Where born: Headington, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Hackney St John Ecclesiastical parish: Hackney St John County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 406 Main Street
Occupation: Oilman
Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: West Hackney ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 26 Household Members: Name Age Josh Shephard Rowlings 58 Alice Rawlings 45 Mary Rawlings 16 Alfred Rawlings 15 Emma Summers 32 - servant Emily Gilbert 18 - servant John Wm Henley 19 - apprentice
Although Ancestry has indexed these with Joseph's family they are at No. 408. However there is no head to the household & their relationship is as follows. Who they are related to is anybody's guess. Julia Millington 32 - widowed sister. Dora Cave 61 - unmarried aunt Keziah Mash 20 - servant Elizth Annie Boddington 18 - servant
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Ozibird
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28 Feb 2008 22:38 |
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This matches up with Emma's Friends School.
IGI Individual Record JOSEPH SHEPHARD RAWLINGS Birth: 23 AUG 1812 Quakers, Shipston-On-Stour, Worcester, England Parents: Father: JOHN RAWLINGS Mother: HANNAH Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: C023471 Dates: 1777 - 1814
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Ozibird
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28 Feb 2008 22:44 |
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1851 England Census Name: Joseph Rawlings Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Gender: Male Where born: Worcestershire, England Civil Parish: Hackney County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Church Street [same as 1861]
Occupation: Oilman
Condition as to marriage: unmarried
Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: Hackney John Rawlings abt 1786 Worcestershire, England Head Hackney, Middlesex - gentleman Joseph Rawlings John abt 1813 Worcestershire, England Son Hackney, Middlesex Eliza Rawlings John abt 1823 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter Hackney, Middlesex - unmarried
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Ozibird
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28 Feb 2008 22:51 |
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1841 England Census Name: John Rawlings Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786 Gender: Male Civil Parish: Stoke Newington Hundred: Ossulstone (Finsbury Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: High Street
Occupation: China dealer Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: Stoke Newington
John Rawlings abt 1786 Stoke Newington, Middlesex Hannah Rawlings abt 1786 Stoke Newington, Middlesex Eliza Rawlings abt 1821 Middlesex, England Stoke Newington, Middlesex
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Ozibird
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28 Feb 2008 22:57 |
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I wonder if this is Joseph. No relationships in 1841 unfortunately.
1841 England Census Name: Joseph Rawlings Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Male Civil Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Hyde Place
Occupation: China _______[??] Dealer Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Hoxton Old Town Joseph Rawlings abt 1816 St Leonard Shoreditch, Middlesex Richard Rawlings abt 1827 Middlesex, England St Leonard Shoreditch, Middlesex
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Ozibird
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28 Feb 2008 23:03 |
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British Isles Father: John Rawlings, Mother: Hannah Batch Number: C023471
International Genealogical Index / British Isles 1. JOSEPH SHEPHARD RAWLINGS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 23 AUG 1812 Quakers, Shipston-On-Stour, Worcester, England 2. ALFRED RAWLINGS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 18 OCT 1814 Quakers, Shipston-On-Stour, Worcester, England
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Ozibird
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28 Feb 2008 23:08 |
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Results for: British Isles Father: John Rawlings, Mother: Hannah Batch Number: C009793
International Genealogical Index / British Isles 1. Eliza Rawlings - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 29 JUN 1820 Society Of Friends Qm, , London, England 2. Helen Rawlings - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 17 NOV 1821 Society Of Friends Qm, , London, England
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Ozibird
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28 Feb 2008 23:12 |
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Perhaps.
IGI Individual Record RICHARD RAWLINGS Birth: 27 DEC 1825 Christening: 16 JAN 1826 Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London, England Parents: Father: JOHN RAWLINGS Mother: MARGARET Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: C040805 Dates: 1826 - 1827, 1827 - 1830, 1830
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Ozibird
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28 Feb 2008 23:13 |
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This is why I'm not sure about the last posting.
1851: Richard Rawlings Sarah abt 1827 London, Middlesex, England Head Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire
Richard Rawlings Mary A abt 1825 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Head Shoreditch, Middlesex
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