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If anyone has a spare moment could you please look for the ladies please. They should both be in the Dorset area.

Ellen Warner b 1873
Florence Warner b 1870

Many thanks in advance for any help
Kind regards Lisa

Could this be Ellen
Name: Ellen Warner
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Bradford Abbas, Dorset, England

Civil Parish: Martock
Ecclesiastical parish: Martock All Saints
Town: Martock
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Yeovil
Sub-registration district: Martock
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Warner 2
Dorthy Warner 4
Ellen Warner 28
Ethel Warner 7
Mary Warner 8 months


This one is married tho but no Hubby listed . was Warner their maiden names /

Would have thought both ladies.if thats their maiden name,would be married by 1901

Warner was Ellen's married name.
I was trying earlier to find a William Robert Warner on the 1901 census and found him on a vessel in dorset it stated that he was married. Libby kindly looked up the marriage for me but on the page with William Robert Warner were Ellen Morris and Florence Elizabeth Bowles. The year was 1897
I am just trying to work out which one was his wife.
So unless they had Ethel out of wedlock I dont think this is the ellen Warner.
Thank you for your help.
Regards Lisa

No Florence Warner came up for any census

Thank you for looking shirley
Kind regards Lisa

Disregard this one.

Possibly.

1891 England Census
Name: Ellen Reed
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Bradford Abbas, Dorset, England

Civil Parish: Martock
Ecclesiastical parish: Martock
Town: Lower Hinton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address: Bouer Hinton

Occupation: glove maker machinist

Registration district: Yeovil
Sub-registration district: Martock
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household Members: Name Age
John Reed 32 - farm labourer
Ann Reed 47
Ellen Reed 18
Jessie Reed 12
William Reed 11
Bessie Reed 5

All born Bradford Abbas except 2 youngest, Yeovil & Martock respectively.

OK read extra info now.

How do you know their birth dates? Did you look them up?

Re Ethel, she could be a daughter by a previous marriage. There is a gap in children's ages.

What info do you have that it is the correct marriage? There are a couple of William Robert Warners getting married about that time. Where was he born?

Ozi.

Is this him? A bit young & this one is single?

1901 England Census
Name: William Warner
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Member Of Crew (Member)
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Vessels
Town: Portland
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

No, obviously this one. As you believe he was married in St Saviour she may not be in Dorset. His family may be based in London or wherever his ship has it's home base.

1901 England Census
Name: William Warner
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Married
Gender: Male
Where born: Chelsea, London, England

Civil Parish: Vessels
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: married

Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Portland
ED, institution, or vessel: Alexandra
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
William Warner 32

1891 England Census
Name: William Warner
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Member of Crew (Member)
Gender: Male
Where born: Chelsea, London, England

Civil Parish: Royal Navy
Town: Portsmouth Harbour
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: Able

Condition as to marriage: single

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Portsea Town
ED, institution, or vessel: Duke of Wellington

Hi Ozibird
Thank you for all your halp last night. William Robert Warner was born Shoreditch in 1870. I have him with his parents on the 1891 census port? Newington London? Then Libby helped yesterday and found him on 1901 census as colour sergent with the royal marines on Alexandra then she found the marriage but I was trying to find out if it was Ellen Morris or Florence Elizabeth Bowles that he married.
Thank you again for looking
Lisax

Sorry looking at your thread with 1891 census it looks as though the William Robert found on 1901 is wrong so unless he died he should be out there somewhere?

I think this may answer your question. Alfred Freeman was the other bridegroom on the page with William Robert Warner. I think the stepson confirms the couple below. Lucky you.

1901 England Census
Name: Alfred Freeman
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: St George Southure

Civil Parish: Chertsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Chertsey
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Chertsey
Sub-registration district: Chertsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 117
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Freeman 47
Ellen Freeman 45
Mathew Moris 18 - stepson

Reading your latest message - are you uncertain the 1891 & 1901 sailor born Chelsea is your William Warner?

Ozi.

Is this your man?


1891 England Census
about William R Warner
Name: William R Warner
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert W
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:


Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: Trinity Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert W Warner 44
Jane Warner 47
Florence J Warner 22
William R Warner 20
Louisa H Warner 18
Walter C Warner 16
Laura R Warner 14
Edith G Warner 11
Mabel M Warner 8
Sydney R Warner 4

You probably have this.

1901 England Census
Name: Robert W Warman [Image is War__ with a squiggle, so no wonder mistranscribed.]
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Uxbridge, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas South Kennington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 65 Studley Rd

Occupation: Commercial traveller (Provisions)

Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Kennington First
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 40
Household Members: Name Age
Robert W Warman 54
Louise H Warman 28
Walter C Warman 26
Edith G Warman 21
Sydney R Warman 14


Deaths Sep 1895
Warner Jane 51 Lambeth 1d 240


Deaths Jun 1894
WARNER Mabel Maud 12 Lambeth 1d 180

Hi Ozibird
thank you again for your help sorry we keep missing each other. I dont think now that the William Robert Warner sailor is mine. Yes I had found the Warner's in 1901 with their name transcribed incorrect I had also found Jane's death but I hadnt found Mabel's so thank you for that.
On 1891 when we last see William Robert with his parents and siblings it looks as though he is a school teacher just like his sister Florence.
I said I had Jane's death but I just looked back at my tree and I had her death as 1900? I dont know where I got that from.
So William Robert is still a mystery?
Thank you again for your help
Lisa x

Lisa, I searched & searched for William, with or without Flor*, with no luck. I wondered if he was a teacher in 1891 but it could be just a dash for not working at all. I'll have another look with fresh eyes.

Ozi.

There is this bloke who is single. It's a possibility as you're not certain he married Florence.

1901 England Census
about William Warner
Name: William Warner
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Gender: Male
Where born: Shornditch, London, England

Civil Parish: Cheriton and Sandgate
Ecclesiastical parish: Cheriton St Martin and Sandgate St Paul
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: Military Camp

Occupation: soldier

Condition as to marriage: single

Registration district: Elham
Sub-registration district: Folkestone
ED, institution, or vessel: Shorncliffe Camp