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Yes thanks Bascat. I found that Sarah Bull & John Rowell marriage on the IGI today too.

Regarding the Rowell/Bull connection. Found the following marriages on Boyds index.

1832 BULL SARA ROWELL JN WATERBEACH CAMBRIDGESHIRE

1834 BULL AN ROWELL WM WATERBEACH CAMBRIDGESHIRE




1802 BULL JAS CREEK SARA WATERBEACH CAMBRIDGESHIRE

Thanks Diane

just to say.. I think the place you mention with the Rowells would be Stretham... in case it makes a difference with your research...
:)

Their marriage was in 1831, witnesses were Wlliam Topping and Jane Topping.

William Topping married Jane BENTON at MEPAL in 1822.
William Topping was born at Ely CAM in 1802.

Hi Margaret
He was a wealthy boot & shoe manufacturer,
employing 16 men on one census.
In his will he leaves 6 houses to his childrren.
I dont know how his wife Mary Robinson came
to be in Cambridge, but her relatives were ministers of religion, and Josiahs son Alfred went to Cam Uni & became a Cof E Minister in London.

Another kind lady on here has just checked the Mepal, Sutton, Haddenham, Manea, Witchford, Witcham & Coveney PR's and has found no trace of him!

xxxx mick

Hello again Mick!

You previously said that you 'know a lot' about Josiah, perhaps you could expand on that?

You found him in trade journals - what was his trade?

If he left a Will, he obviously wasn't an Ag.Lab.!

His wife was from Yorkshire - what was she doing in Cambs.? The witnesses to their Marriage - where were they from and were they related in some way to either party?

M. Steer

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Thanks Maggie - I will have a look

Well, it's possible - but I live in hope.

Mick, just a thought.

Josiah's children weren't baptised until they were, adults! Perhaps Josiah was never baptised?

M. Steer

Hi Margaret
The marriage was at St Andrew the Less, Cambridge on 5 Jun 1831 between Josiah Bull of Trinity parish and Mary Robinson, spinster of this parish. Witnesses were William Topping and Jane Topping All census records indicate Josiah was born in Mepal and Mary was born in Knaresborough Yorkshire.

Mick, I'm still intrigued!

You know when Josiah married - how do you know? When, where, who did he marry?

M.Steer

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Hi Margaret
I have always known a lot about Josiah Bull through family knowledge and surviving documents. I know when he married, I have found him in trade journals, I know when he died, I have a copy of his will, - those children you mention are all his, baptised quite late in life.
The one thing I have never been able to find is his birth and his parents! On every census he insists he was born in Mepal- but no trace of him -its all been very frustrating! A lovely lady on here is going to check the Mepal PRs in the Cambridge records office for me soon - hopefully that will lay him to rest at last! xxx mick

Mick, I'm intrigued with your Josiah Bull.

You gave his children's names, do you have any of their Birth Certificates? I found Baptisms for Alfred Ernest, Alice Jane and Sarah Louisa all in 1853 at St.Andrew the Less, Cambridge (they may not though be yours). George, was more difficult (not an uncommon name) but there was one, Baptised in Stretham in 1827?

I don't mean to be rude but are you sure that the Josiah you're researching is the person that you think he is?

Athena suggested that you might use the children's names as a clue, she was right but I would suggest starting with the boys, their names stay the same, girls change with marriage.

Is there any chance that Josiah may have been Baptised Joseph?

M. Steer

Athena
Further to your suggestions above, I have spent the day looking for possible SARAH Bulls as Josiah's mother.
I found a Sarah Bull (mother-in-law) (born abt 1779) living with a family of Rowells in Stetham CAM in the 1871 census.
That name rang a bell somewhere-
Checked my old Bull folder-
I found an old LDS index card where a John Rowell has baptized/registered MY Josiah Bull into the Mormon church (or whatever it is they do) in 1929!
Can he be the same John Rowell on the 1871 census?? Does this mean that Josiah Bull is one of his family/ ancestors? Tantalizing stuff, but still no proof!!

Thanks for your help and advice Athena & Margaret.

No sign of either parent living with him.

His children were named George, Alfred Ernest, Sarah Louisa, and Alice Jane.

xx mick