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1 Feb 2008 05:11 |
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I'm looking for info on a James G. Kilgour, Wife: Nellie (or Petranella), Son: Ross G. Kilgour and daughter: Eva Nella Kilgour. They were in Cook - Illinois 1910. La Porte - Indiana 1920 and San Diego - California 1930. I wish to establish the middle names in James G. and Ross G. Probably only available on birth or marriage certificates? James G. Kilgour b: c1874 Scotland (Nellie) Petranella ? b: c1878 Illinois James G. Kilgour b: c1911 Illinois Eva Nella Kilgour b: c1914 Illinois
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Lewella
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1 Feb 2008 05:46 |
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Have you tried www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk ? You will need to buy some credits.
Is this him?
1881 Scotland Census about Jas G Kilgour Name: Jas G Kilgour Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Relationship: Son Parent's Name: John Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanark Sh Registration Number: 644/8 Registration district: Milton Civil Parish: Glasgow St George County: Lanarkshire Address: 16 Abercorn St Occupation: Scholar ED: 15 Page: 4 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 23 Line: 2 Roll: cssct1881_232 Household Members: Name Age Thomas R Halket 29 Jas G Kilgour 7 Mrs. John Kilgour 48
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 North America James G. Kilgour Event(s):
Marriages: Spouse: Nellie Boone Family Marriage: 25 JUN 1902 Chicago, Cook, Illinois
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Lisa J in California
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1 Feb 2008 06:03 |
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Harris:
Have you seen the 1900 census?
1910 United States Federal Census Name: James G Kilgour Age in 1910: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Birthplace: Scotland Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Scotland Mother's Birth Place: Scotland Spouse's Name: Nellie Home in 1910: Chicago Ward 32, Cook, Illinois Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Year of Immigration: 1887 Household Members: Name Age James G Kilgour 36 Nellie Kilgour 33, wife, born Illinois, parents: Holland Jessie Kilgour 10, daughter, born Nebraska
1900 United States Federal Census Name: James George Kilgour [James Goerge Kilgour] Home in 1900: Omaha Ward 7, Douglas, Nebraska Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Birthplace: Scotland Relationship to head-of-house: Son Parent's Name: Jessie R Race: White Occupation: Immigration Year: 1886 Household Members: Name Age Jessie R Kilgour 66, Aug 1833, head, Widowed, number of years married: 8, born Scotland Thomas R Hacket 50, Apr 1850, son, born Scotland, Bookkeeper James George Kilgour 26, June 1873, born Scotland, married 2 years, Bookkeeper Jessie M Kilgour 10.12, Aug 1899, granddaughter, born Nebraska, father born Scotland, mother born Nebraska Walter Wright 59, roomer Marie Rundgren 14, servant I'm not sure James' name was George. Looks like Gorgg or Gorqq
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Lewella
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1 Feb 2008 06:11 |
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Lisa, that ties in with the 1881 Scottish Census. Thomas "Halket" (probably mistranscribed) is noted as "son"
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Lisa J in California
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1 Feb 2008 06:38 |
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Hi Lewella:
Actually, I just took another look at the 1900 and it looks like the word is actually Halket!
The census taker wrote "George" a few lines about the Kilgours, and it looks nothing like James' middle name. I have no idea what it could be. :(
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Lewella
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1 Feb 2008 06:45 |
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Rats! Are you able to email me the image. Sometimes a second look can help. Pm me if you want my email address
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Lewella
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1 Feb 2008 06:50 |
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1871 Scotland Census about Mrs. Jessie Halket Name: Mrs. Jessie Halket Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanark Registration Number: 644/7 Registration district: Milton Civil Parish: Glasgow St George County: Lanarkshire Address: 45 Braid St Occupation: Labourer ED: 10 Page: 3 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 17 Line: 18 Roll: CSSCT1871_134 Household Members: Name Age Mrs. Jessie Halket 38 Thomas Halket 19 (son) Miss Janet Ross 86 (aunt)
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Lisa J in California
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1 Feb 2008 06:52 |
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Lewella, unfortunately I cannot send images. :(
Harris didn't ask for this, but I also found: New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Thomas Ross Halket Arrival Date: 11 Jul 1912 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Age: 61 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Southampton, England Ship Name: Majestic Port of Arrival: New York, New York Line: 17 Microfilm Serial: T715 Microfilm Roll: T715_1896 Page Number: 27 Single Naturalized: July 8, 1893, Douglas County Court, Omaha, Nebraska Address in U.S.: 6803 South Chicago Ave., Chicago Ill
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Lewella
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1 Feb 2008 06:53 |
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Jessie is the pet name for Janet (I've got a lot of those!)
1861 Scotland Census about Janet Halket Name: Janet Halket Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Lanarks Registration Number: 644/7 Registration district: Milton Civil Parish: Glasgow St George County: Lanarkshire Address: 41 Burnside S Occupation: Tailoress ED: 50 Page: 18 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 101 Line: 10 Roll: CSSCT1861_107 Household Members: Name Age Janet Halket 28 Thomas Halket 10
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Lewella
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1 Feb 2008 06:59 |
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Well, at least we know from the Aunt, "Miss Janet Ross", where the Ross fits into all of this
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Lisa J in California
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1 Feb 2008 07:18 |
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I don't have any Janet/Jessie. Good job at finding that!
Another thing that Harris didn't ask for, but...: View Record Name Arrival Date Estimated Birth Year Port of Departure Ethnicity/ Nationality Ship Name Dd Kilgaur 14 Oct 1887 abt 1878 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Scottish (Scotish) City of Chicago Fanny Kilgaur 14 Oct 1887 abt 1843 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Scottish (Scotish) City of Chicago Mar Kilgaur 14 Oct 1887 abt 1884 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Scottish (Scotish) City of Chicago San Kilgaur 14 Oct 1887 abt 1875 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Scottish (Scotish) City of Chicago Thos Kilgaur 14 Oct 1887 abt 1876 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Scottish (Scotish) City of Chicago
I don't agree that those are the correct names. Mar could be Miss. San COULD be Jam (I have a Jam for James on a Canadian census).
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Lisa J in California
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1 Feb 2008 07:24 |
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Harris, have you contacted the Riverside National Cemetery? They may have Ross' middle name. (Do you have a copy of Ross' U.S. Veteran's information? I'm assuming it is for your Ross.)
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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!
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1 Feb 2008 07:39 |
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Here are some Illinois records:
http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html
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Lisa J in California
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1 Feb 2008 07:47 |
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California Death Index, 1940-1997 Name: Evanella Shortt [Evanella Kilgour] Social Security #: (Left off intentionally- we can send it to you) Sex: FEMALE Birth Date: 9 Feb 1914 Birthplace: Illinois Death Date: 15 Jul 1987 Death Place: San Diego Mother's Maiden Name: Boone FATHER'S SURNAME: Kilgour
Evanella/Eva Nella had at least two children: James Shortt Kenneth Shortt Several of us can send the remainder of the information, if you are interested. (Both are most likely still living.)
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Harris
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1 Feb 2008 08:57 |
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Thankyou all: Lewella; Lisa J; Portland Rose, You have all found more info than I have. Most of the pieces fit, i.e. Halket was Jessie GREIG first husband, John Kilgour was her second husband. Jessie and her first son (Thomas ROSS Halket) & second son (James GRIEG Kilgour) emigrated to America. I have not seen the 1900 Census or the N.Y. Passenger List. Are these available on Ancestry.com? The 1910,1920,1930 U.S. census list a James G., Nellie and Ross G. but have not been able to connect them to James Greig Kilgour. I would love to know any details for children of Ross G. or Eva Nellie if anyone knows them. The War Veterans web-site also only list Ross G. Kilgour, the middle name is the sticking point of identification. Thanks all again, sounds like it is them and I now have James wife's name of "Boone" to help
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Lisa J in California
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1 Feb 2008 09:05 |
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Harris, it's 1:00 a.m. here. I have to stop soon. I am sending Eva's childrens' information by pm, since they most likely are still living.
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Lisa J in California
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1 Feb 2008 09:21 |
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1920 United States Federal Census Name: Rose G Kilgour [Rose G Kilgens] Home in 1920: Michigan City Ward 1, La Porte, Indiana Age: 9 years 4 months Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to Head of House: Son Father's Name: James G Father's Birth Place: Scotland Mother's Name: Petranella Mother's Birth Place: Illinois Marital Status: Single Race: White Image: 624 Household Members: Name Age James G Kilgour 45 Petranella Kilgour 41 Rose G Kilgour 9 4/12 Eva Kilgour 5 6/12
Written as Rose, but listed as "son". (My brother's first name is Ross, and during his first day at school, the teacher called out the students' names, and asked if "Rose" was present. He used his middle name from then on!)
Census enumerated at the beginning of January, which means Ross would have been born around August.
Yours? California Death Index, 1940-1997 Name: Ross Kilgour Social Security #: Sex: MALE Birth Date: 9 Aug 1910 Birthplace: Illinois Death Date: 23 Sep 1985 Death Place: Los Angeles
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MargaretM
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1 Feb 2008 12:56 |
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California death records are free here:
http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi
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