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Does anyone have American (Illinois) BDM Info

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MargaretM

MargaretM Report 1 Feb 2008 12:56

California death records are free here:

http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 1 Feb 2008 09:21

1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Rose G Kilgour
[Rose G Kilgens]
Home in 1920: Michigan City Ward 1, La Porte, Indiana
Age: 9 years 4 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
Birthplace: Illinois
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: James G
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Name: Petranella
Mother's Birth Place: Illinois
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Image: 624
Household Members:
Name Age
James G Kilgour 45
Petranella Kilgour 41
Rose G Kilgour 9 4/12
Eva Kilgour 5 6/12

Written as Rose, but listed as "son". (My brother's first name is Ross, and during his first day at school, the teacher called out the students' names, and asked if "Rose" was present. He used his middle name from then on!)

Census enumerated at the beginning of January, which means Ross would have been born around August.

Yours?
California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Ross Kilgour
Social Security #:
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 9 Aug 1910
Birthplace: Illinois
Death Date: 23 Sep 1985
Death Place: Los Angeles

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 1 Feb 2008 09:05

Harris, it's 1:00 a.m. here. I have to stop soon. I am sending Eva's childrens' information by pm, since they most likely are still living.

Harris

Harris Report 1 Feb 2008 08:57

Thankyou all: Lewella; Lisa J; Portland Rose,
You have all found more info than I have. Most of the pieces fit, i.e. Halket was Jessie GREIG first husband, John Kilgour was her second husband. Jessie and her first son (Thomas ROSS Halket) & second son (James GRIEG Kilgour) emigrated to America. I have not seen the 1900 Census or the N.Y. Passenger List. Are these available on Ancestry.com? The 1910,1920,1930 U.S. census list a James G., Nellie and Ross G. but have not been able to connect them to James Greig Kilgour. I would love to know any details for children of Ross G. or Eva Nellie if anyone knows them. The War Veterans web-site also only list Ross G. Kilgour, the middle name is the sticking point of identification. Thanks all again, sounds like it is them and I now have James wife's name of "Boone" to help

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 1 Feb 2008 07:47

California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Evanella Shortt
[Evanella Kilgour]
Social Security #: (Left off intentionally- we can send it to you)
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 9 Feb 1914
Birthplace: Illinois
Death Date: 15 Jul 1987
Death Place: San Diego
Mother's Maiden Name: Boone
FATHER'S SURNAME: Kilgour

Evanella/Eva Nella had at least two children:
James Shortt
Kenneth Shortt
Several of us can send the remainder of the information, if you are interested. (Both are most likely still living.)

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 1 Feb 2008 07:39

Here are some Illinois records:

http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html

Rose

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 1 Feb 2008 07:24

Harris, have you contacted the Riverside National Cemetery? They may have Ross' middle name. (Do you have a copy of Ross' U.S. Veteran's information? I'm assuming it is for your Ross.)

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 1 Feb 2008 07:18

I don't have any Janet/Jessie. Good job at finding that!

Another thing that Harris didn't ask for, but...:
View Record Name Arrival Date Estimated Birth Year Port of Departure Ethnicity/ Nationality Ship Name
Dd Kilgaur 14 Oct 1887 abt 1878 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Scottish (Scotish) City of Chicago
Fanny Kilgaur 14 Oct 1887 abt 1843 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Scottish (Scotish) City of Chicago
Mar Kilgaur 14 Oct 1887 abt 1884 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Scottish (Scotish) City of Chicago
San Kilgaur 14 Oct 1887 abt 1875 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Scottish (Scotish) City of Chicago
Thos Kilgaur 14 Oct 1887 abt 1876 Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Scottish (Scotish) City of Chicago

I don't agree that those are the correct names.
Mar could be Miss. San COULD be Jam (I have a Jam for James on a Canadian census).

Lewella

Lewella Report 1 Feb 2008 06:59

Well, at least we know from the Aunt, "Miss Janet Ross", where the Ross fits into all of this

Lewella

Lewella Report 1 Feb 2008 06:53

Jessie is the pet name for Janet (I've got a lot of those!)

1861 Scotland Census
about Janet Halket
Name: Janet Halket
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarks
Registration Number: 644/7
Registration district: Milton
Civil Parish: Glasgow St George
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 41 Burnside S
Occupation: Tailoress
ED: 50
Page: 18 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 101
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1861_107
Household Members:
Name Age
Janet Halket 28
Thomas Halket 10

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 1 Feb 2008 06:52

Lewella, unfortunately I cannot send images. :(

Harris didn't ask for this, but I also found:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Thomas Ross Halket
Arrival Date: 11 Jul 1912
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Age: 61
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Majestic
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 17
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_1896
Page Number: 27
Single
Naturalized: July 8, 1893, Douglas County Court, Omaha, Nebraska
Address in U.S.: 6803 South Chicago Ave., Chicago Ill

Lewella

Lewella Report 1 Feb 2008 06:50

1871 Scotland Census
about Mrs. Jessie Halket
Name: Mrs. Jessie Halket
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
Registration Number: 644/7
Registration district: Milton
Civil Parish: Glasgow St George
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 45 Braid St
Occupation: Labourer
ED: 10
Page: 3 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 17
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1871_134
Household Members:
Name Age
Mrs. Jessie Halket 38
Thomas Halket 19 (son)
Miss Janet Ross 86 (aunt)

Lewella

Lewella Report 1 Feb 2008 06:45

Rats! Are you able to email me the image. Sometimes a second look can help. Pm me if you want my email address

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 1 Feb 2008 06:38

Hi Lewella:

Actually, I just took another look at the 1900 and it looks like the word is actually Halket!

The census taker wrote "George" a few lines about the Kilgours, and it looks nothing like James' middle name. I have no idea what it could be. :(

Lewella

Lewella Report 1 Feb 2008 06:11

Lisa, that ties in with the 1881 Scottish Census. Thomas "Halket" (probably mistranscribed) is noted as "son"

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 1 Feb 2008 06:03

Harris:

Have you seen the 1900 census?

1910 United States Federal Census
Name: James G Kilgour
Age in 1910: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Birthplace: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Spouse's Name: Nellie
Home in 1910: Chicago Ward 32, Cook, Illinois
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1887
Household Members:
Name Age
James G Kilgour 36
Nellie Kilgour 33, wife, born Illinois, parents: Holland
Jessie Kilgour 10, daughter, born Nebraska

1900 United States Federal Census
Name: James George Kilgour
[James Goerge Kilgour]
Home in 1900: Omaha Ward 7, Douglas, Nebraska
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Birthplace: Scotland
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Parent's Name: Jessie R
Race: White
Occupation:
Immigration Year: 1886
Household Members:
Name Age
Jessie R Kilgour 66, Aug 1833, head, Widowed, number of years married: 8, born Scotland
Thomas R Hacket 50, Apr 1850, son, born Scotland, Bookkeeper
James George Kilgour 26, June 1873, born Scotland, married 2 years, Bookkeeper
Jessie M Kilgour 10.12, Aug 1899, granddaughter, born Nebraska, father born Scotland, mother born Nebraska
Walter Wright 59, roomer
Marie Rundgren 14, servant
I'm not sure James' name was George. Looks like Gorgg or Gorqq

Lewella

Lewella Report 1 Feb 2008 05:46

Have you tried www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk ? You will need to buy some credits.

Is this him?

1881 Scotland Census
about Jas G Kilgour
Name: Jas G Kilgour
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relationship: Son
Parent's Name: John
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark Sh
Registration Number: 644/8
Registration district: Milton
Civil Parish: Glasgow St George
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 16 Abercorn St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 15
Page: 4 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 23
Line: 2
Roll: cssct1881_232
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas R Halket 29
Jas G Kilgour 7
Mrs. John Kilgour 48

IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
North America

James G. Kilgour
Event(s):


Marriages:
Spouse: Nellie Boone Family
Marriage: 25 JUN 1902 Chicago, Cook, Illinois

Harris

Harris Report 1 Feb 2008 05:11

I'm looking for info on a James G. Kilgour, Wife: Nellie (or Petranella), Son: Ross G. Kilgour and daughter: Eva Nella Kilgour.
They were in Cook - Illinois 1910. La Porte - Indiana 1920 and San Diego - California 1930. I wish to establish the middle names in James G. and Ross G. Probably only available on birth or marriage certificates?
James G. Kilgour b: c1874 Scotland
(Nellie) Petranella ? b: c1878 Illinois
James G. Kilgour b: c1911 Illinois
Eva Nella Kilgour b: c1914 Illinois