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Caroline G Stainton

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Patricia

Patricia Report 21 Sep 2008 17:29

Trying to find out more about Caroline and her family,she had a daughter Eliza GM Stainton,her mother was Eliza Young,was Elizas maiden name Drum.they came from Lincoln and were shown to be at Lock Yard in 1881.
Grateful for any clues
Regards Patricia

Victor

Victor Report 21 Sep 2008 17:40

For reference here is the family in 1881.


1881 England Census

Name: Eliza Young
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Lincoln, Lincoln, England

Civil Parish: Lincoln
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street address: 2 & 3 Lock Tavern Yd
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:



Registration district: Lincoln
Sub registration district: Lincoln Home
ED, institution, or vessel: 23

Household Members: Name Age


Eliza Drum 11
Mary R. Drum 6
George Smith 49
Sally Smith 52
Caroline G. Stainton 24
Eliza G.M. Stainton 1
Eliza Young 50


Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3243; Folio: 24; Page: 41; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341773.


Victor

Victor

Victor Report 21 Sep 2008 17:50

This is Eliza Drum with family in 1871 transcribed as Dunn.



1871 England Census

Name: Eliza Dunn
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: St Michael
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Registration district: Lincoln
Sub registration district: Lincoln Home
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Household schedule number: 134
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Dunn 1
John Dunn 25
John Dunn 3
John Dunn 8
Mary Dunn 23


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3373; Folio: 131; Page: 26; GSU roll: 839365.

Address 1 Asylum Road, John (hea) is listd as a Boilermaker.


Victor

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 21 Sep 2008 17:51

In 1871 Caroline Young, aged 14, born Lincoln, was a student at a Convent School in St. mary, Nottinghamshire.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 21 Sep 2008 17:55

In 1861 Caroline Young aged 4 is a lodger in St. Swithin, Lincolnshire. Doesn't seem to be any family members with her.

Victor

Victor Report 21 Sep 2008 17:57

Here is Eliza Younge from the 1871 census.

1871 England Census

Name: Eliza Young
[Eliza Durm]
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Lincoln
Civil Parish: St Swithin
Ecclesiastical parish: Lincoln
Town: Lincoln
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Registration district: Lincoln
Sub registration district: Lincoln Home
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
John Casterls 21
Mickle Coleselow 41
Edward Donley 13
Jane Drum 68
John Hardwick 60
Joseph Hoe 50
William Jackson 40
James Manrow 12
John Marr 20
Sister Thompson 41
Ellen Wilson 10 months
Mary Wilson 31
Patrick Wilson 33
Eliza Young 38


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3373; Folio: 5; Page: 2; GSU roll: 839365.

Address Lock Yard 2 of 3. Jane (head) is listed as a Lodging House Keeper. Eliza (daughter) is listed as a Housekeeper.


Jane is listed as Jane Durn but on the original it is Drum.

Victor

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 21 Sep 2008 17:58

I think this could possibly be the marriage but surname is Swinton not Stainton
Marriages Mar 1879

Swinton Thomas Lincoln 7a 600
YOUNG Caroline Gertrude Lincoln 7a 600

And

This is the birth of Caroline's child Eliza
Births Dec 1879
Swinton Eliza Mary G Lincoln 7a 529

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 21 Sep 2008 18:02

Here is Caroline Swinton in the 1891 census with Eliza Young
Name: Caroline G Swinton
[Caroline G Young]
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Female
Where born: Lincoln

Civil Parish: St Swithin
Ecclesiastical parish: St Swithin
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Lincoln
Sub registration district: Lincoln Home
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Rose M Drummond 17 Neice
Caroline G Swinton 34 married occ Dressmaker
E M G Swinton 11 granddaughter
Eliza Young 60 Head Widow occ Hawker

Address 2nd House Union Court St Swithin Lincoln

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 21 Sep 2008 18:06

Caroline in 1901 census
Name: Caroline Swinton
[Caroline Young]
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head Daur (Head)
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Female
Where born: Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: St Swithin
Ecclesiastical parish: St Swithin
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: Lincoln
Sub registration district: Lincoln Home
ED, institution, or vessel: 47
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76
Household Members:
Name Age
Caroline Swinton 44 Head Widow occ Dressmaker own account
Gertrude Swinton 21 Daughter occ Singer Music
Eliza Young 71 Mother widow

Patricia

Patricia Report 21 Sep 2008 18:07

Thanking you all,will be able to follow up
Regards Patricia

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 21 Sep 2008 18:09

This looks like Caroline's mother Eliza. Her mother's name is transcribed Durm but I think original is Drum.
1871 census
Lock Yard 2&3, St. Swithins, Lincoln
Jane Drum, head, widow, 68, lodging house keeper, born North Leach?, Lincolnshire
Eliza Young, dau, unmarried, 38, hawker, born Lincoln
Edward Donley, grandson, 13, born Lincoln

Victor

Victor Report 21 Sep 2008 18:17

And here is Jane Drum with her husband and family in 1861, including Eliza Drum aged 30, and Caroline Young.


1861 England Census

Name: Jane Dunn
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Farrel
Gender: Female
Where born: N Scarl, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: St Swithin
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Registration district: Lincoln
Sub registration district: Lincoln Home
ED, institution, or vessel: 21

Household schedule number: 53
Household Members: Name Age
William Baxter 63
James Burns 60
John Clark 50
Caroline Dunn 32
Eliza Dunn 30
Farrel Dunn 70
Jane Dunn 58
John Dunn 14
Michael Hughes 41
John Killinton 59
Michael Loftus 34
Bernard McCann 60
Francis D Neil 54
Elizabeth Pratt 51
William Pratt 52
Thomas Riley 19
Benjamin Thompson 36
John Wilson 55
Caroline Young 4


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2360; Folio: 81; Page: 12; GSU roll: 542959.


Address 2 & 3 Lock Tavern Yard. Farrel (head) is listed as a Hawker & Lodging House Keeper and is from Ireland. There are 5 other Hawkers lodging with them.

Why is Caroline Young listed as a lodger?? And what is the connection??

Eliza Drum (daughter) is listed as Married.

Victor

Victor

Victor Report 21 Sep 2008 18:19

Could this be the birth of Caroline??


Name: Caroline Gertrude Young
Year of Registration: 1857
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Lincoln
County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 441



Victor

Victor

Victor Report 21 Sep 2008 18:28

Here they are in 1851.


1851 England Census

Name: Farrel Drum
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Lincoln St Swithin
Ecclesiastical parish: Lincoln
Town: Lincoln
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England



Registration district: Lincoln
Sub registration district: Lincoln Home
ED, institution, or vessel: 20c

Household schedule number: 189
Household Members: Name Age
William Brady 33
Benjamin Carrol 28
Charles Chaffer 39
Charles Darley 40
James Donnelly 3
Mary Donnelly 25
Sarah Donnelly 1
Sename Donnelly 25
Caroline Drum 22
Edward Drum 9
Eliza Drum 20
Farrel Drum 53
Jane Drum 45
John Drum 5
Richard Miller 40
Thomas Nipper 19
John Powell 40
James Robinson 80
John Russell 46
Ann Smith 3
Catherine Smith 35
James Smith 40
John Welsh 63


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2105; Folio: 420; Page: 46; GSU roll: 87734.


Address 2 Union Court. Farrel (HEAD) is listed as a Farm Labourer.

Sename Donelly should read Terance Donelly, he is son-in-law married to daughte Mary.


Victor

Victor

Victor Report 21 Sep 2008 18:48

Here is the marriage of Farrel and Jane.


IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles


Farrel Drum
Male


Marriages:
Spouse: Jane Hales
Marriage: 31 DEC 1825 St Michael-On-The-Mount'S, Lincoln, Lincoln, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.


Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

M026293 1562 - 1753 1542058 IT 2 Film NONE




Victor

Victor

Victor Report 21 Sep 2008 18:54

This looks like the christening of Jane.

IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles



Jane
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 10 FEB 1805 North Scarle, Lincoln, England



Parents:
Father: John Hailes
Mother: Elizabeth


Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C030593 1570 - 1865 1542197 IT 3 Film NONE


Victor

Victor

Victor Report 21 Sep 2008 18:56

All the children listed to John and Elizabeth.


Results for: Hailes, British Isles
Father: John , Mother: Elizabeth
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: C030593
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Gender: Female Christening: 08 AUG 1802 North Scarle, Lincoln, England

2. Jane - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 FEB 1805 North Scarle, Lincoln, England

3. Elizabeth - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 NOV 1816 North Scarle, Lincoln, England


Victor

Victor

Victor Report 21 Sep 2008 18:59

Could this be the marriage of John and Elizabeth??


IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles



JOHN HAILES
Male

Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH WALLIE Family
Marriage: 27 OCT 1791 North Scarle, Lincoln, England

Messages:
Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The source films cannot be sent to family history centers and have limited access at the Family History Library. A family group record for this family may be in the Family Group Record Collection; Archive Section. (See the Family History Library Catalog for the film number.) These records are alphabetical by name of the father or husband.


Source Information:
Batch Number: A184629
Sheet: 00
Source Call No.: 184629 Type: Book

Victor

Patricia

Patricia Report 21 Sep 2008 20:46

Victor,you are a gem,really appreciate all you have done .Thankyou so much.
Regards Patricia

Victor

Victor Report 22 Sep 2008 09:22

Patricia

Glad it is what you were looking for. Be aware that the IGI records that do not say "Extracted birth or christening record" in the Messages section, may be suspect and would need to be checked at the local registry office.

Good luck and good hunting.

Victor