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22 Sep 2008 09:22 |
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Patricia
Glad it is what you were looking for. Be aware that the IGI records that do not say "Extracted birth or christening record" in the Messages section, may be suspect and would need to be checked at the local registry office.
Good luck and good hunting.
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21 Sep 2008 20:46 |
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Victor,you are a gem,really appreciate all you have done .Thankyou so much. Regards Patricia
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21 Sep 2008 18:59 |
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Could this be the marriage of John and Elizabeth??
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles
JOHN HAILES Male
Marriages: Spouse: ELIZABETH WALLIE Family Marriage: 27 OCT 1791 North Scarle, Lincoln, England Messages: Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The source films cannot be sent to family history centers and have limited access at the Family History Library. A family group record for this family may be in the Family Group Record Collection; Archive Section. (See the Family History Library Catalog for the film number.) These records are alphabetical by name of the father or husband.
Source Information: Batch Number: A184629 Sheet: 00 Source Call No.: 184629 Type: Book Victor
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21 Sep 2008 18:56 |
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All the children listed to John and Elizabeth.
Results for: Hailes, British Isles Father: John , Mother: Elizabeth Exact Spelling: Off Batch Number: C030593 [refine search] Prepare selected records for download
International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 3 Select records to download - (50 maximum) 1. Sarah - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 08 AUG 1802 North Scarle, Lincoln, England 2. Jane - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 10 FEB 1805 North Scarle, Lincoln, England 3. Elizabeth - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 17 NOV 1816 North Scarle, Lincoln, England Victor
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21 Sep 2008 18:54 |
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This looks like the christening of Jane.
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles
Jane Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 10 FEB 1805 North Scarle, Lincoln, England Parents: Father: John Hailes Mother: Elizabeth
Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C030593 1570 - 1865 1542197 IT 3 Film NONE Victor
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21 Sep 2008 18:48 |
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Here is the marriage of Farrel and Jane.
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Farrel Drum Male
Marriages: Spouse: Jane Hales Marriage: 31 DEC 1825 St Michael-On-The-Mount'S, Lincoln, Lincoln, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M026293 1562 - 1753 1542058 IT 2 Film NONE
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21 Sep 2008 18:28 |
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Here they are in 1851.
1851 England Census
Name: Farrel Drum Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Lincoln St Swithin Ecclesiastical parish: Lincoln Town: Lincoln County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England
Registration district: Lincoln Sub registration district: Lincoln Home ED, institution, or vessel: 20c
Household schedule number: 189 Household Members: Name Age William Brady 33 Benjamin Carrol 28 Charles Chaffer 39 Charles Darley 40 James Donnelly 3 Mary Donnelly 25 Sarah Donnelly 1 Sename Donnelly 25 Caroline Drum 22 Edward Drum 9 Eliza Drum 20 Farrel Drum 53 Jane Drum 45 John Drum 5 Richard Miller 40 Thomas Nipper 19 John Powell 40 James Robinson 80 John Russell 46 Ann Smith 3 Catherine Smith 35 James Smith 40 John Welsh 63 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2105; Folio: 420; Page: 46; GSU roll: 87734.
Address 2 Union Court. Farrel (HEAD) is listed as a Farm Labourer.
Sename Donelly should read Terance Donelly, he is son-in-law married to daughte Mary.
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21 Sep 2008 18:19 |
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Could this be the birth of Caroline??
Name: Caroline Gertrude Young Year of Registration: 1857 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Lincoln County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 441
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21 Sep 2008 18:17 |
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And here is Jane Drum with her husband and family in 1861, including Eliza Drum aged 30, and Caroline Young.
1861 England Census
Name: Jane Dunn Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Farrel Gender: Female Where born: N Scarl, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: St Swithin County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Registration district: Lincoln Sub registration district: Lincoln Home ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Household schedule number: 53 Household Members: Name Age William Baxter 63 James Burns 60 John Clark 50 Caroline Dunn 32 Eliza Dunn 30 Farrel Dunn 70 Jane Dunn 58 John Dunn 14 Michael Hughes 41 John Killinton 59 Michael Loftus 34 Bernard McCann 60 Francis D Neil 54 Elizabeth Pratt 51 William Pratt 52 Thomas Riley 19 Benjamin Thompson 36 John Wilson 55 Caroline Young 4 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2360; Folio: 81; Page: 12; GSU roll: 542959.
Address 2 & 3 Lock Tavern Yard. Farrel (head) is listed as a Hawker & Lodging House Keeper and is from Ireland. There are 5 other Hawkers lodging with them. Why is Caroline Young listed as a lodger?? And what is the connection??
Eliza Drum (daughter) is listed as Married.
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21 Sep 2008 18:09 |
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This looks like Caroline's mother Eliza. Her mother's name is transcribed Durm but I think original is Drum. 1871 census Lock Yard 2&3, St. Swithins, Lincoln Jane Drum, head, widow, 68, lodging house keeper, born North Leach?, Lincolnshire Eliza Young, dau, unmarried, 38, hawker, born Lincoln Edward Donley, grandson, 13, born Lincoln
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21 Sep 2008 18:07 |
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Thanking you all,will be able to follow up Regards Patricia
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21 Sep 2008 18:06 |
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Caroline in 1901 census Name: Caroline Swinton [Caroline Young] Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Head Daur (Head) Mother's Name: Eliza Gender: Female Where born: Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: St Swithin Ecclesiastical parish: St Swithin County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Lincoln Sub registration district: Lincoln Home ED, institution, or vessel: 47 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 76 Household Members: Name Age Caroline Swinton 44 Head Widow occ Dressmaker own account Gertrude Swinton 21 Daughter occ Singer Music Eliza Young 71 Mother widow
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21 Sep 2008 18:02 |
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Here is Caroline Swinton in the 1891 census with Eliza Young Name: Caroline G Swinton [Caroline G Young] Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Eliza Gender: Female Where born: Lincoln Civil Parish: St Swithin Ecclesiastical parish: St Swithin County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Lincoln Sub registration district: Lincoln Home ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Rose M Drummond 17 Neice Caroline G Swinton 34 married occ Dressmaker E M G Swinton 11 granddaughter Eliza Young 60 Head Widow occ Hawker Address 2nd House Union Court St Swithin Lincoln
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21 Sep 2008 17:58 |
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I think this could possibly be the marriage but surname is Swinton not Stainton Marriages Mar 1879
Swinton Thomas Lincoln 7a 600 YOUNG Caroline Gertrude Lincoln 7a 600
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This is the birth of Caroline's child Eliza Births Dec 1879 Swinton Eliza Mary G Lincoln 7a 529
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21 Sep 2008 17:57 |
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Here is Eliza Younge from the 1871 census.
1871 England Census
Name: Eliza Young [Eliza Durm] Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Female Where born: Lincoln Civil Parish: St Swithin Ecclesiastical parish: Lincoln Town: Lincoln County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England
Registration district: Lincoln Sub registration district: Lincoln Home ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Household schedule number: 11 Household Members: Name Age John Casterls 21 Mickle Coleselow 41 Edward Donley 13 Jane Drum 68 John Hardwick 60 Joseph Hoe 50 William Jackson 40 James Manrow 12 John Marr 20 Sister Thompson 41 Ellen Wilson 10 months Mary Wilson 31 Patrick Wilson 33 Eliza Young 38
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3373; Folio: 5; Page: 2; GSU roll: 839365. Address Lock Yard 2 of 3. Jane (head) is listed as a Lodging House Keeper. Eliza (daughter) is listed as a Housekeeper.
Jane is listed as Jane Durn but on the original it is Drum.
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21 Sep 2008 17:55 |
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In 1861 Caroline Young aged 4 is a lodger in St. Swithin, Lincolnshire. Doesn't seem to be any family members with her.
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21 Sep 2008 17:51 |
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In 1871 Caroline Young, aged 14, born Lincoln, was a student at a Convent School in St. mary, Nottinghamshire.
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21 Sep 2008 17:50 |
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This is Eliza Drum with family in 1871 transcribed as Dunn.
1871 England Census
Name: Eliza Dunn Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: St Michael Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England
Registration district: Lincoln Sub registration district: Lincoln Home ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Household schedule number: 134 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Dunn 1 John Dunn 25 John Dunn 3 John Dunn 8 Mary Dunn 23 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3373; Folio: 131; Page: 26; GSU roll: 839365.
Address 1 Asylum Road, John (hea) is listd as a Boilermaker.
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21 Sep 2008 17:40 |
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For reference here is the family in 1881.
1881 England Census
Name: Eliza Young Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Lincoln, Lincoln, England Civil Parish: Lincoln County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: 2 & 3 Lock Tavern Yd Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower) Education:
Registration district: Lincoln Sub registration district: Lincoln Home ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Drum 11 Mary R. Drum 6 George Smith 49 Sally Smith 52 Caroline G. Stainton 24 Eliza G.M. Stainton 1 Eliza Young 50 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3243; Folio: 24; Page: 41; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341773.
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21 Sep 2008 17:29 |
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Trying to find out more about Caroline and her family,she had a daughter Eliza GM Stainton,her mother was Eliza Young,was Elizas maiden name Drum.they came from Lincoln and were shown to be at Lock Yard in 1881. Grateful for any clues Regards Patricia
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