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Hello everyone, i thought i would spent a quiet afternoon reseaching my tree but i am at the point of self harming over here! Sarah Chandler married Alfred Emery in Dec 1858. Iam trying to find where exactly she was born so that i can trace her family. Her place of residence between 1861 and 1901 is Botley Hampshire. The problem i have is the 1861 states she was born- London England the 1871- Bishopstoke Hampshire the 1881- London Middlesex the 1891- Richmond Surrey and the 1901- London England! I am sure you will understand my frustration! If anyone has a glass ball, i would be very grateful for any help if possible. If not please may i borrow your ball to hit myself over the head! Thanyou for your time, Sue

The best I can offer is the suggestion that you purchase her marriage cert, to find out about her father

Where was the marriage?

Based on assumptions - but.....????? 1851

Name: Sarah Chandler
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Jasper
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Hamstead, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: South Stoneham
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England


Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: St Mary Extra
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b, 3, and 4b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Jasper Chandler 42
Mary Ann Chandler 41
Elena Chandler 15
Sarah Chandler 13
Jane Chandler 10
William Chandler 9
Charles Chandler 7
Alice Chandler 4
Emily Chandler 2


For info only re; marriage location

Sarah Chandler 1858 Winchester Hampshire
Alfred Emery 1858 Winchester Hampshire

Hello Flick, the marriage was Winchester Hampshire V 2c P 158. Yes i know what you mean about the marriage cert, i know it wont give me her place of birth but i will just have to hope that her fathers name can give me a clue.

Thats a good one Flick, four of Sarahs children have the same names as her siblings, i shall bare that one in mind. Right i best order the marriage cert before they charge me another couple of quid!! Thankyou for your time, Sue.

Let's hope the father is called Jasper - not too many of them !

The one I posted for 1851 was a Railway Porter - may help to pinpoint him for you

Cheers Flick, Sue x

Well done Flick!! Recieved the certificate at long last and your assumption was spot on! ... JASPER the "Railway Porter" it is. Its a gold star for you! Thankyou, Sue x

delighted that it's the right one, Susan

And thank you for the update - much appreciated

Do you need any more lookups?

Just in case - 1841

Name: Sarah Chandler
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Gender: Female

Civil parish: Kings Worthy
Hundred: Mitcheldever (Lower Half)
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Winchester
Sub-registration district: The Worthys
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Chandler 30
Mary Chandler 9
Eliza Chandler 6
Sarah Chandler 4
Jane Chandler 1


All born out of County


I've only found one Jasper in 1841 - not born in Middx - which would fit with 1851, which states that he was born in Walford, Hants

His occ is Male Servant, but that isn't necessarily significant

Name: Jasper Chandler
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Gender: Male

Civil parish: St Marylebone
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: St Marylebone
Sub-registration district: All Souls and Trinity
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jasper Chandler 25

JASPER CHANDLER
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 12 MAR 1809 St Marys, Watford, Hertford, England

Father: WILLIAM CHANDLER
Mother: ANNE


Batch No.: C073051


I've checked the image of 1851 census - there is a definite error.

His birth is recorded as Hants - Watford.

His wife's is 'do' Buntingford.

Well, Buntingford and Watford are HERTS - so the above baptism is definitely Sarah's father

Chandler, British Isles
Father: William , Mother: Anne
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: C073051

1. GEORGE CHANDLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 20 JUN 1802 St Marys, Watford, Hertford, England

2. GEORGE CHANDLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 JAN 1804 St Marys, Watford, Hertford, England

3. JAMES CHANDLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 27 JUL 1806 St Marys, Watford, Hertford, England

4. SARAH CHANDLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 AUG 1793 St Marys, Watford, Hertford, England

5. EDWARD CHANDLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 09 MAR 1800 St Marys, Watford, Hertford, England

6. JASPER CHANDLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 12 MAR 1809 St Marys, Watford, Hertford, England

Hi Flick, i have been at it all morning and to be honest, these dead people are driving me nuts! I have to take a break now because the living people in my family, very selfishly, require feeding! I am sure i will be back to you on this one. Thankyou for now Flick, Sue. P.S. I love dead people. x

That is extremely helpful Flick as thier places of birth varies throught the census's. Sue.

Sarah and Alfred in 1911

Sarah married 52 years 9 children 7 living 2 dead
Daughter Emily married 6 years 2 children both living

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

EMERY, Alfred Head Married
52 years M 77 1834 Formerly Market Gardener Botley Hants VIEW
EMERY, Sarah Wife Married
52 years F 73 1838 Richmond Surrey VIEW
ELLIOTT, Emily Daughter Married F 31 1880 Botley Hants VIEW
ELLIOTT, Alfred Henry James Grandson M 1 1910 Botley Hants VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6049 Reference:
RG14PN6049 RG78PN276 RD100 SD2 ED1 SN53

Registration District:
South Stoneham Sub District:
South Stoneham EnumerationDistrict:
1 Parish:
Botley

Address:
Winchester St Botley Hampshire

Wendy x

Thankyou Wendy. How very kind. Sue x

Good Morning everyone. All thanks to Flick and her assumptions, i have managed to do reasonably well with some members of this family, but some have me absolutley stumped! I am just going round and round in circles now so would appreciate some more help please.....
First of all, in the 1861 census for Jasper Chandler (Still cant find his marriage to Mary Ann!) there is a Grandaughter Ellen Chandler age 1 born Hants North Stoneham. She appears again as Grandaughter in the 1871 census as Ellen Smith age 11 born Hants Northend. If Ellen is indeed a Smith, i think the two possible mothers, going by their ages are Mary, who appears in the 1841 census that Flick put on this thread but i can find nothing about her after 1841 as i have no idea where she was born. And the other is Eliza but i am not able to find a marriage for her.

I would just like to add that i have Jasper's two daughter's Sarah and Jane nicely tied up. Susan

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'n' sorry to nudge this up for the second time today but been sat here so long, my leg's have gone bandy! lol Susan